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Episode 2 · 1 year ago

S02E02: (Par)entrepreneurs: Mom Camp

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Aubrey interviews the founders of Mom Camp about the difficulties of starting a business and their First Attempt In Learning. Col shares his CaronActivity Book, guaranteed to buy you 15 minutes of quarantine peace and quiet.

Welcome back, we are up and runninglive on season to of accidental parenting, and I want to start with abi of a public service announcement, a little notice, a disclaimer, withcorona virus being all the rage right now, whatdd, we say all the range have apositive kindit's, true, okay, so with corona virus being like all over theplace right now everywhere everywhere. Right now, you know we wanted to address it withour listeners and we've thought long and hard about the best way to do this,and you know sending an email out to everyone just seemed a little bitimpersonal. So I just wanted to address it here. We at accidental parentingtake Carona virus seriously. It's with your safety in mind that we take extrameasures to wipe down and sanitize all of our recording equipment andworkpaces. Before and after each recording session, we'll continue toupdate our listeners on additional safety measures that we are taking, but they're really happy to know thatjust wanted to get that out of the way T and- and you know we should emailthat to every mightemail is everyone we may I'll I'll. Keep that in my backpocket there you go so yeah, we have m. We have an interview for you todaywhich will get to in a minute, but first col has been working on somethingexciting. I was going to share with you tells about it. Well, it's important tous and I'm reading this off of my script. It's important to us thataccidental pparenting serves is a valuable resource for parents duringthis time of uncertainty in our society. It's with that in mind and that spiritof team workand together is that we offer coved nineteen, a corona activityand guidebook for kids. This will be a free, downlotable resource that parentsacross the world will have access to, and we share this resource to,encourage you and you know, provide you a a glimmer ofhope and how to talk about Carona virus with your kids and hopefully keep thembusy for about fifteen minutes. So you can have some peace and PLA. There cango plus it's hilarious and it'and. It's silarious we're going to shore thedetails about where you can find. What do I call it? They call itWerantivityyes covanieteen a coronactivity buok details about whereyou can find tha at the end of the podcast, but before we do that lastweek, we' t give away wer. So we gave away egiving away a box of sweetie sweets cookies. We interviewed BGIFFIN lastweek, go back and listen to episode, one if you missed it and we drew awinter today, winter winter and the winter was Lizzie Shep big big call outto Lizzie Shap, so we are going to ship them. A box of cookies, 'cause unluckyfor us they're, one of the only people who signed up for this giveaway, that'sout of state but Luckyo well, but lucky for her. It's not that far shippy forher shippin can't be that much it might cost more to ship these cookies than itdoes to actually buy the Goroun Leigh Hash Dog Worthe, definitely worth itfor all of those. What five people that participated in are giveaway beautiful, so we'll be sending those off to Liz,and you never know there might be some wore give aways coming. So, let's talkfor a few minutes before we get into the interview. Let's talk about Easterecause. This last weekend was Easter. Happy Easter. Everyone Happy Corona,vyreceaved her. It was definitely different. Being a corrent of rth Yesorliees, less significantly less family parties. We did a zoom partywith cold family little yeah sume chat, kind of a simple meal yeah we didhamith potatoes, but like know just kinda she's Kindo simple littleday back it's interesting 'cause! This weekend I got so sick of hearing thekids. Argue. People were worried there for a second. I got so sno just ar you feeling much better. Now, yeah I got so sick of hearing the kidsargue that they were like five or six times that I said Gus, I'm going in theother room, I'm shutting the door. I just don't want to hear you. You justneed to stop. This corona virus is really getting to me. Yeah. It is it'sUm you're on your last nerveil Thi. I really. I love that you're, not speaking foryourself you're, just like yes, it is really getting to you. I mean it's getting to me, but it Ifeel, like you, escape it in a different way. I don't know becausemost of the day you have your headphones in listening to Podgasha, soani sow and I ignore them Ifyou, can't he you're N Terin the volume up. THAT'SNOT FAIR! I mean you can listen to Ponka. I could I could. I also I getparanoid that they don't clean up after...

...themselves or that doesn't Mir Oy inOng word, but it drives me necessarily bother you yeah how'did. You like thattonight, when our oldest billd, the rice all over the kitchen, Oh yeah, shemade dinner, which was awesome and y rate. She made this like pork, Breatleyrace, Taraki thing and she was in the middle of cooking and she pulled riceout from the cupboard above and t busted open or something and just poredRighti. She said she was putting it away: Oh, an a put, the Lis Il of thebag and the container, and it was like wlike two cups ar like a weddingcelebration, other throwing riht Har Man Err, speaking of weddings, Carnof,Viris, weddings people are doing this online virtual. I saw a picture of awedd ride in a groom with a Mason Yeah, which is like emmerable for him. Yeah Yeah- and Ijust think, okay, so there's there's not really a honeymoon 'cause. You a goanywhere right now the honeymoo about this. That would be the best situationfor like you're stuck inside your quorantines. If you're brand newmarried, you don't want to go anywhere anyway. You just want to hang outtogether. Your friends can't complain that you're not shit with them. 'causeyou just got married and don't want to hang out with them 'cause you can'tit's a stay at home, murder, Boon of ideal. At the same time, you're goingto figure out real, quick, whether you like each other, I think, they're,probably like each other. I I'm just saying, though, like twenty four seven,no break no one's going to work. It's! It would be a tough adjustment, quitethe adjustment. It's a tough adjustment for everyone.It is. It helps a little bit that you were already working from home. I wasalready working from home. We were around each other, a Tim, but I thinkcouples who normally work full time outside of the home. This is a hugeadjustment to both be home and I think some people are driving each othercrazy for sure I think so we just avoid each other so that hller up in youroffice, you may well not be here most of the day. Well, you and you have yourrtbuds and you may as well not be here most of the time, all right. Let's talk about thisinterview, yeah, it's a good one Um! I need to edit, I was just listening toit and the zoom is being crazy. I think just 'cause, so many people are online,so the audio's Kinda crazy, I'm going to see if I can edit a little bit andclean it up a little bit, but a good interview, our good friend Aaron Colby,that we met when we were living in New York City and then they moved here. rerdental school hung out with him here and then they moved to San Diego andshe and her good friend started a business and we're going to talk tothem both about it. Alright yeah I'm excited to hear T ern, the okay, hello, everybody. We episode twoof our second season and I'm realy excited for this on. We have a funinterview with a good friend of mine, Aaran Colby. We were good friends inNew York City and we're still good friends today, even though she lives inCalifornia Wan. I tsay hiearn Haguy happy not etherswelcome to the podcastme Y, and this is the first time over Zoom I've interviewed two people. Wealso have Aaron's good friend in business partner, Brei Hepworth,welcome to the POD Gasperi. Thank you. I was just telling bre that m peopleoften call Mibri, but usually on the phone someone. I don't know. If I, if Ilike, make an order for carry out and they ask my name and I say Aubri andthey say Bri and I say yes and I think it's because they think I said Bri like maybe I'm making it up. It'snot really my name and I'm not going to give you my real name, Bres, my fake name. I lov him drink people. When I uh, youknow get my name Ong no way, would you right? They don't care. Ask Yes exactlywhatever they say. That is exactly right! Okay, I'm going to introduce youguys by Um, asking you first, a really random question. Arian. If you'd like to answer first, Iwan tnow. When is the last time you washed your hair, oh well, I hate to wash my hair I'm trying to think of it was yesterday.It was probably the day before actually atobing at home exercises, and so thenI get sweaty and gross, and I guess if I get to a really gross point, I willindeed wash my hair. So it's not horible right now, I've gote longer,that is for sure. I know a lot of people say that if you go a certainamount of time that you don't need to anymore, like you get the natual,that's never happened. For me. I will go a very long time and no, it justgets worse. It just gross yeah, yeah, you're ablomethic and I haven't donelike the dry shamp everyone''s like Oh, it's fine as long as you have dryshampoo- and I just haven't gotten into that yet, but I think that would helpthe longebity of not showering, which I an exciting um idea right. I would loveto not have to, but I hate dray shampoo. It makes it feels so dirty and at stuff.I don't like the feeling O he gunk in my hair, so yeah, it's not like itmakes it a'll go it just feels like you...

...have now covered it with Yunk. No, I don't I'm curious if you like it,I do not why about Youbri, how long I amnot showering. I hate tri amp, what Ishower today! I don't. I don't think I've gone longer than maybe a week. YouWash your hair every time you shower yeah, yeah! No! Well, no! No, not I'Li'll, wash it like, maybethree times a week, but I don't really go that long without it'cause. I don't like dry shampoo. I hate the way it smells e young Crneah, its just gross. So Iyeah, I usually wash my hair a lot which I know is like not the trendright now, but I know peeing S. it's really bad for your hair right. So allof us have probably really unhealthy hair, but I just can't do it? Okay, so I'm going to make someassumptions about you guys Um Arin. First, I think your favorite dessert iskeylime. Bi Oi, like sugar in all form every sugar,no hat's, not my favorite. It's Om real good right now. So, okay, what's your favorite, I reallylike chocolate, mint brownies. Oh that sounds really good and I really likeMengo sticky rice. Oh yes, at a Thaie restaurant, of course. Yes, that's oneof my favorites and it feels healthy, 'cause, there's Mingo yeah lthh. Everytime we eat like at a Taie restaurant, my husband's, like you're, going tofinish your rice meal off with some Ras. Yes, I am put some rice, it sugar on itand exactly what's happening all right bree. What about you Oesse meI'man of guess. I think your favorite dessert is Um. Um Cookies, chocolate chip, cookie, itis acly Youe got it. I never hit these rates. VRDA YEAH! I was going to say ifhe had guessed errands for me. I was like I'm not a fan of Pie, any kind ofpite, but it has to be a really good chocolate tip cookie, and I I'm a bigFan. Like all the you know, all the cookie places that are popping up nowto have the giant big cookies, so good, O good with Fanella ice cream just thebest way to have it. Last week we interviewed my friend Giffin. She ownssweeties cookies, wist partners and their cookies are amazing. When youguys are in Arizona, you need to check hem out they're chocolate, ship cookies,so good, so good, Iam, a huge crooky person. So I'm there sweeright, let'sgo let's a date, you guys Comeang outand, we'll all go together all aboutit right: okay, Um! We do another! One of these. I am going to guess that yourguilty pleasure TV show Earin is the bachelor ohow. Do you mind? I totally watch the bachelor and Imight want to. There is like a cool club in my neighborhood that watchesthe bachelor breath in it a OK. You came one time and Ho're Sao cool girls.It was not too bad. I came the one time and I found myself sort of like makingfun of them and then I was like. Why am I teing? So man like these women likelove it and, of course they make fun of them too, but I'm like anyway. I try to watch it if coals there forgetit, he makes fun of e show. He makes fun of me. I'm like go do somethingwith Ya. I was yeah. I was coal in that scenario, so I can't be part of the COLgirl clothe, an and so okay one Morei love it Isnot Mana at last Qresshon,when you were a kid breet you first you wanted to be. When you grew up, youwanted to be an a neurosurgeon SORTA. I mean I wantd to be a vet, soyou know a doctor. I rain surgery on dogs, but then I realized that you don't see healthy pets, you seeSingtet, and that was really sad. So I changed thatReal, quick, like real, real, quick. You just wanted to be like a dog walkerlike I want to hang out with healthy pets, ye the happy ones you know, but yeah. Okay, what about you eon? Let Me Guess:Um, I think when you grew up, you wanted to be mm. An actress M: I actually had a little insigdt INFOabout that. Didn't I I I did I do. I still do it. I still do you can be an old actress, then I goyes, I tell, I still have hopes. You've got the middle aged rolls to lookforward to and old late and the old lady rolls.You know, O Anyi'm excited okay, so we...

I want to talk to guys about YourBusiness. We are doing this series where we're talking about moms talkingtwo MOMS who started businesses and- and we want to know like how did you doit? What was it like, and so first Um tell me briefly abouteach of your families, where you live, how many kids you have? I am aarin. We live in the San Diego area, myhusband's, a dentist, and so we moved from Arizona where the curters werehere about five years ago and we have four girls. So it's just constantly agirl club and we love it here, 's Great. Okay. What about Youbre? You live closetogether, your neighbors right yeah, so I live right down the street from Erind.Before we bought a house here we would always go over to their house and we'djoke. Oh how fun would it be if we moved in here and then we were lookingat houses and it was. You know right down the street, so it was meant to be so. Yes O. I have three little kids. Iwas born and raised in San Diego, so this was kind of like moving back home.We moved from Connecticut and yeah a four and a half year old, twoand a half year old and a nine month old, Cathos all the time, it's loud inCASS, but it's great. I do love it. They're,they're, fun, they're, awesome, kids, we'll talk specifics about yourbusiness in a minute, but for both of you did you always consider starting abusiness like? Were you always intinterested in entrepreneurship, ordid that kind of come out of the BL? I grew up with an NTPRENEUR, father andso to me was like a bit of the norm. But that's what youdid. You looked for an idea and you had your own business and my dad never hada nine to five, so he was always we always joked like he was always therelike. He was every sporting event every everything, but he wasn't really likethere. There 'cause he was like on a spone like always work, alw, hearickly,but always working and so um yeah. I've always loved the idea of having your own businessand working for yourself and I've always loved Avia and come up withseveral ideas along the way, not that I've done any of them necessarily, but there's still time you're going to be amiddle aged actress and munciple businesses to do it all at once. No way exactlywhat about you breed? Did you always see yourself as owning a business? Yes, I mean, I my background is inadvertising and graphic design and so m in that field I mean you always have aside project something going on for yourself and I mean just honestly beingaround creative people, twenty four seven kind of justinstills that in youof what are you going to create next? What are you going to do? What idea dohave? What are you doing to Um pursue that idea, and so for me, I'vealways wanted to. You know, do something on my own, I freelance as well, so I mean it'skind of just a natural thing to just kind of think Kay. What's next, what'swhat's the next big big idea and big project so gosh, I would aohearfreelance, I am a graphic designer and Oso. I did granding design for peopleso lothose any sort of branding websites, all thatkind of fun stuff abriliant he realy good at it. So I'm guessing you did themarketing and branding for this business we're going to chat about. Idid Nay, okay, so tell us about it. What was the name Um and the e there's this little spoileralert, which you're probably hearing from my Wov but earon? Let me know thatit's sort of been dissolved so tell us about that, but first yeah, what's thename of it? How did it work m? So we started Mon camp was the nameof our business and when Aubrey called and asked to interview us on thePODCAST, I was like well really not happening anymore, monkamp's nothappening, but if you want Ta Failstory, you know then, which I did like Beslip,and you know, as I h D thought about that. Actually I thought, if you knowanything about untrpreneurship like nine out of ten of your business ideas,don't work and so how many podcasts or how many books do you read aboutsuccessful businesses which is really good and really inspiring and how too m?But Hey will be the one that lets. You know that we tried something that, forthe time being M, didn't necessarily work um for one reason or another an but so first, how did it work 'cause? II knew like I wanted to come. I wanted to come to a surfing, mom camp. Iwanted to do a volleyball mom camp. If I weren't in Arizona, I would have beeninfor every one of these camps. Thos are so fun. I I am Soba at agood idea.I love the idea. I wanted to meet more...

...friends and have my kids taken care ofand Hava relaxing weekend. So yes, so the idea, you don't mind, Brilta, likethe beginning, part of it and the new co Ar Ecol. It was kind of born out of jealousy ofmy own children. I was shoveling them around to like Um Theater camp and swimcamp, and then I really wanted them to do surf camp and they didn't want to,and you know, they'd kind of complain along the way and I was finding myself like jealousof them. You know I was like you got all these opportunities o like I wouldlove to be in a theater camp and like go for two weeks and then put on ashelt like you've been all day long working on a show and then like at theend of two weeks, put on a shell like to me: that's a dream or like swimming.Were we do triatalons, and so I'm like Ush? Can you imagine how good I wouldget if I got to go every single day of the summer to Swim Camp? You know it's amazing. So it was sort of likeborn out of jealousy in that way. Wherei was like you know. We needsomething for Mos, we need like a camp or something that we can do. Um and yeah brp ive been there yeah I meanso. We were on a bike ride one day actually, and it was like one of theonly chances that we had to get out because we're both so busy, and so wewere both riding our bikes and she was like Kay.I have this idea, it's kind o crazy, but what do you think? And she pitchedyou know the idea tun long for mom camp to me and I was like Hay, I'm in let'sdo it. Let's start it and I mean the whole idea. Is You just don't have timeto do anything for yourself as a mom? And it's not even I don't know it's not that you don'thave time, but you don't make time and that's really hard, and you know you you make time foreverybody else in your life 'cause. You know as a mon. You are a helper a lot.You know you serve. Other people and you think about other people's needsall the time, but it's also really important to take care of yourself andthat's just not really done a lot as a mom and you just it always just gets put on the backburner, and so we were kind o thinking. How great would it be if here's something it's scheduled, itsplan for you all you have to do, is shill up, and so that's you know,that's Kinda where it came from and it was, it really was. You know on thebike ride. Man It'd be nice. If we could do this more often, you know andwait. I want to do that too. I want to play tennis, I'm an a serf. I want tolearn how to do all these things and Um yeah. So it it really just kind of was from the idea of you know, there'sso many fun things that we wanted to do and there's just never time as a mom, andso we fan a thought. Why don't we help make that time for hold alongs?What's the first mom camp that you did, was it surfing? It was surfing R yeah,I think like I had br can serf well, but moving to California hit was likeone of my big desires. Si was like. I want my kids to do serf, camp or like Iwant to do surf camp, and so that was one of our first ones that we did. We eactually found this amazing instructor wewre able to get several mums together,and you know he took us out and we really wanted it to be like a campwhere you're not just going to like go for one time, but you commit at leastthat was my initial idea. It was like, if you could do like two foll days in arow where you could really give it some time and some effort that you mightactually like get a little bit better at something 'cause. I feel Li ot thatthe kids were getting in Camp Right. It wasn't like just like a spotty, youknow like. Oh you go, do it one night paint class or you know something likethat, like you're, really going to give it some time and effort enough that youcan like fail and then try again and you're putting yourself up there andanyway, the Surf Camp was O, Oh so fun, and if I can like back up a tiny bit m back to just like our our businessmodel, we found that there were so many options for moms to like, I feel likehe's pretty common for moms to be like hey, you need a little bit of time foryourself and you know mom's need to like take a little time for themselves.I feel like there was a lot of venues for that and we felt like this was abit of a different thing than that, like I, my husband would say: Hey youneed a break, go like do something and I would find myselfthiing like. Oh okay,I'll go like Wat, go to the spall like go, get a pedicure and I felt sounfulfilling to me. It was like, if I wasn't with my kids, like doing whatwas really important to me- that I'm just like blowing off time like gettinga peticure or somethine, not enough...

...time to get past the mom gilt, likeyou're Teo, a mom gilt when it's time to go back. There's such a big trend on you know,thingdoing things to improve yourself right, but there's not a lot of thingsthat are active. You know, and it's just it'staking time to get your nails done or read a book or you know it's just andthat's not bad stuff, but there's one a lot of options for you know doing something physical foryourself and so that was kind of a a gap in the market that we saw of youknow, and even we were talking about, there's alot of M, podcats and stuff out there or selfhelped books and there's justthere's, there's things that you can do foryourself. But there's just there's not a lot of um active resources and yeah. I no, and it is really true likeyou can go running or you can maybe try to find people to do like a sport, butit's really difficult actually as a mom to like find the people to do it withand to organize all. And so you just don't you just don't Dou to it, andit's like you can you can be that one person you sike and you are augry thatperson whois. I put together the party put together, the tennis match puttogether the pickeball like Ligober Hert Inn, but there are so many momswho, like we would talk to about this. You know, and the other thing is thatwe're raising people right like our idea, is to raise whole people andwe're asking our kids like go. Put yourselves out there in this camp andthey're, like it's Kindo, scary and we're like you'll, be fine, but likewhat do we do to model that we do nothing? We we drive them there and sofor me, it was like I loved when my kids saw me surveying even my littlestShou'd, be like Momy fols down Mommy foes down o hose owt and IASA bank onmy gosh th or I would come back and my older kid say TA. So do you know how toserfe now I'd be like? Well, no, I went for one day you know and I'r like well,Yeah D, I'm like just like. I tell you, you have to continue to practice andlike no, I spent the entire day getting trashed by wavs. I probably won't learnhow to surf in the next two days, but it was such a g great conversation. Ifelt empowered to get away in Docen for myself. I felt it helped me, be a momto come back and have those talking points and then to like exemple by whatI'm telling them to do every day like go to a new school. That's super scary,but what do we do to put ourselves in that situation so that we can modelthat for our kids and that's where like getting a pedacure is not going to doit and going to a spot is not going to do it? That teaches our kids, that weneed a break from all the hectic and it doesn't teach our kids like? No, weneed a break to go like make sure that we're being who we're supposed to beand teaching you how to be a whole person too. So Itas kind of that'swhere our passion kind of Lide was that it would make you a better mom. You'dcome back more fulfilled if you were becoming a whole person and modellingnot for your kids, definintely and just to show them, you can keep growing, youcan keep learning. You know it's not done once you're mom and then you justeveryhin for your kids, but was my tagline Brav. It got shot down andmarketing. It was my favorite. Wasn't it growing up wed grow up, goit yeah, nobody liked it. The murketing shot itdown, but I wanted it to be. Mom can grow up because you know we're tellingour kids to grow up and like we need to grow up step up. I thought it was alittle edgy iid I like it. So was marketing department bret or did youhave more cople than Oll? I rea you say: Marketing Marketing the marketingperson who shot otand down was your husband right iodervey. We did a survey Okgoch forLik. They felt like a little bit offended by that and it was like yeahgriat buddy grow up. Okay, so you did a bunch of t. You dida tennis one. I remember and m art like painting what other mom camps did youdo swead Surfiy we had a painting class,we did tennis, they ball and horseback riding volleyball and hearst bigradingawesome. And how did you get the word out? How did you market? How did youget moms to sign up? The first couple, were you know friends, because wewanted to test out 'cause. The thing was, and I mean both Arn and I have you- know, high standards if like. Ifwe're going to do this, we want it to be good and we want it to be worth herotime and worth your money, and you know we want to do it right and so the firstcouple camps, we were kind of vetting the instructors and KINDOF testing itout and seeing what worked and what didn't work, and so the first couplewere through friends and then it kind...

...of became friends of friends and after that and after we kind of set upour schedule and said, okay, this is what works. This is what we like. Thenwe expanded it into a website and you know created in instagram accountand a face wit, page to kind of house. All that information- and you know justdid- did some typical stuff trough there,like facelook and Instrogram, ads and stuff like that. But then we also Imean as a mom. I think one of the biggestthings that you listen to ore recommendations right.You know you can read something online and it's like okay. That might be great.But if you hear that your friend likes it then Sol you'll do it, and so a lotof our marketing was really through word of mouth with people, and ifsomeone liked it, then we had two or three of their friends want to come. Doit next ten, especially 'cause Ilike wit, something like surfing so manylons were terrified to go surf, but after hearing no it was Awesome d. Itwas fun, it was great, then they would try it yeah yeah. Sothen what happened like? Why? I'm so I'm still kind of in shock, because Ilove the idea. I want to go to everyone of them and I call the air and allexcited and to hear you know kind of maybe put on hold, maybe there's achance that it'll still get going in the future. There is Nki mean goodesset up, it's all set up and it could easily be and we'll get wet'tll getmore into like the fail, but the bottom line is: there are onlythree adventurous people in this world. It's US three. I was your target audience. I am yourdeal customer ut you wore the only one, no I'm just not enough M interest n. Ifmoms that will spend money on themselves. You know I think Um. Whatwas the most heartbreaking thing for me like? What was the hardest thing for meto take was that if we were personally- and you know this is like lic- we couldn't tell our story in a sustinct enough way without like ourselves there. You knowwhat I mean like to put it on, like a ten second ad or like a poster, or aflyer like to get the passion in the story in a sustinct enough way thatthey understood what M Mon camp was right like it's not just like. Oh, go:Learn to play tennis or like O, go do something for yourself like to us,there's more underneath that about, like, like I said, like modeling, thesethings to your children and becoming like a more whole person, and you knowthese kinds of things, so that was really tough, but t it washeartbreaking for me was that when we would go to events that were live andwe would talk to people about it, you would feel like this kinshipbetween this mom, where they're like. Oh, my gosh, like this, is the bestidea. This is the best idea or like I need this so bad and that's different,like it was a different feeling and like totally, we should go to the spawthis weekend or like let's G, it was a different feeling. It was like, ah likeI need this, and then we could ' close the deal it was likethey couldn't and for sure partly you know it was a new businessand for us just like learning, but it was like just getting them to step away fromtheir lives. We know his MOMS, like our lives, are so scheduled and it is sodifficult to step away from your life, and so it's just that like on the spot,like just, do it Ma'n when they were like. Is You can't like step away fromYour Life and plant? You know it's like childcare and kid drop off and pick upand there's a lot of moving parts that were out of our control that stoppedmom's from doing it. But it was sad because it wasn't like you were sellingthem a product that they didn't want. You could feel from their heart that,like it was something they needed and wanted, and then it just often times wouldn't come. Ican really see that like, if I imagine taking more than a few hours like I'll,go and play ticklball or sand bolleyball for a couple of hours and toleave for longer than that. Take so much preparation to figure out. Youknow: What's going to go it the kids and how are you going to get hem to allthe things and Um? That's difficult for any parent for sure. So that's to ctispart was logistics. tenfad. There were so many moving parts and a lot of times. We would meet peoplewho would love it and who would want to surf, but they can't surf on Saturdays.You Know Tuesdays in the afternoon workd better, but you know we have thethe volleyball camp is on Tuesday, and but they don't want to do volleyball. Imean there's so many different things and I think that's where we kind of raninto a problem was it's just. We can't...

Scud at this point. We can't schedulefive different surfcamps because Aaron and I have to be there, but we alsohave kids and that's our job too, and that's a full time job in itself, andso we couldn't really throw our full hearts into it becausewe had other stuff going on, and so we were so limited by the days and the times and theinstructtheir days and times and then even facility scheduling. And so it was hard because it was. Therewas so so many moving parts that I think a lot of people that wereinterested the times just never worked, and and so that made it really difficultand and had it like Groan right like in our mind, if we could have scaled it.Where you like have enough people to book enough camps, then we could havetimes for all sorts of things and we had amazing instructors and we had allthese things that are all set up. That could have happened Um, but like bre ad and really kind of whatyou're talking about on thiss potcast. Is You know? How do you as a mom starta business? And you know we call this: A business fail Um, but one of my kidsteachers, her favorite word is fail, she's, a big like growth mindset,person and she every time the kids like fail. She just claps for them, but itstands for first attempt in learning. Some of you maybe heard that, and so Ihave a different mindset about failure as well, that you know, I think it'sreally not necessarily a failure. It was truly our first attempt to start it,but that being faid we are moms with three and four kids. Bre was pregnantat the time and you kind that we came to this point where it was like it'stime to invest more money and more of ourselves like we've taken it as far aswe can on word of mouth and spreading as far as we can, and so now we need tolike decide. Are we going to invest money and more time or are we not and for us at that pointin our lives with bee having a baby and me having foour kids? We just thought we have it all set up and it wouldeasily be revived, but at this same like it's just too hard, Gotcha so definitelypotential for in the future. If you know, if you were able to get investorseven or you know, I feel like there 's so many little things that could clickinto place and it would just be going like gamgbusters. You know, notsure, Imean Yeah E. Your heart is yeah, there's a time and season foreverything right. You know, and it's just I mean I we were doing surf campswhen I was seven months pregnant, I think, and so couldn't get on board with them. I wasvery jealtless, but you know it's just it wasn't the righttime and it was for us. I mean it was obviously meantto be that we set it up and we had that experience together and we did it, andI do believe that you know it was meant to happen and we were meant tohave that experience. But there is a tirean season for everything and itjust isn't the right time. I mean we both. We both were totally fine with shelvingit, because I think both of us just felt like you know we couldn't give everything that we needed to togrow it Um as a as a perfectionist. I hate feeling- andI hate quitting something like I don't I don't quit ever Um and teand. Wedidn't say that we would 'cause, we couldn't take it Werewe're, not we'renot done done we're just like you're just going to have your baby right nowright and then you know n. So I think it's and I think that's whyneither of us were really sad to stop because it just it felt right, and Imean we still talk about it. We're like you know. If we want to do anotherpainting camp, let's do it, you know, and it's just there's, there's alwaysbeing busy with other stuff, and you know putting ir for in other places.You know, and it's just it just wasn't the right time to continue it, becauseall of our effort needed to go to you know other places at the time. I don'tknow if you know Gal Miller, she um is like a billionaire and she was marriedto Larry Miller who like started all these Toyota celerships. Yes, and Iread her biography, it was Er autobiagic. Actually she wrote it, butshe raised. I don't even know how honey I'll probably say it wrong. You've.Probably all your listeners have probably read this book, but she hadlike what eight kids she supported, Larry in his business, and he you know,had this amazing business and Larry...

...died when he was maybe fifty six ofdiabetes and she took over this company and then tenexed it woh she's abillionaire, and she didn't go to college. She was a stay at home mom.She, you know an Larry would come home. She knew the INS and outs of thebusiness through like him coming and talking about it, but she saidsomething really profound which was, and this isn't for everyone- I'm notnecessarily preaching this, but it resognated with me at this time. In mylife, which was there are different seasons for things,th t when you have children, you should devote your time to your kids. Youdon't have to do everything in that twenty year period, where you have kidsand when they're growing up and when and and when I thought about that, Iwas like Yeh. She started a multibillion dollar company Tenex itwhen she was almost sixty years old. No, her kids are grown, her kid were grownand I mean that's what happened for her, but I think sometimes we get this smallmindset of like get married, have kids and do the business and do thehousework and home school, your kids and it's like, can you there are so many who can do that allat once and they are special people and I love them for it. But it made me stepback and just think like is this mom and business thing for everyone and doyou have to do it all at the same time? None. You know just pand, it'sdifferent for every person, but I thought you can still be so successfulas a mother and then be successful as an entfreneur, and you don't have tofeel bad about not doing it all at once. I love also th. Not only are youstetting an example for your kids for all kids um about trying and Um, youknow keeping at something but um wha what you do after you fail right. Do you you know what attitude do youhave? Do you keep trying other things and that alone, if for nothing else,for your kids to have seen you try this? Have this idea and go for it? That ishuge. You know just to to have that example, and to see that and Bri. Iknow earond mentioned that you're starting a new business right. So Jaethat to see someone like you know what let's tray something else. Unless youlike that that minds at what? What is the business that your starting up? It's no t's, not a great time for it,considering all the Um Corona virus stuff that's going on because it is achildren's Um, travel, ttravel business so reallygreat time, I'm just looking at it as a blessing, because now I can geteverything set up and ready to go and once we're postis we're going to beready to travel everyone, aeer e, exactly so medi it'll workout! Maybeit's neant to be that way. But what is it called Duvid Dame for the Yeh, soit's called miny voyager and we create kind of custom created kits for kidsfor when they travel, because parents are so stressed when they travel withkids and my husband and I actually love it. We've taken our kids on twelve hour flights and we're fine withit. We enjoy it and so not as shocking to me teco kids on flights, it's theworst. You have to have something different for every fifteen minuteswhen they're really young. So so we kind of feel like it's you're already stressed when you'retravelling, and so why add, to the stress of Oh, my Gosh, he ian entertain my kids.If it's a car ride, what are they going to do every thirty minutes, and so wehave kids that kind of just have some unique activities and stuff for kids todo that. Parents wouldn't really think of, and it just gets packed up, shippto your door, throw it in your kids bag and they're going to go. Oh, I lovethat idea. Sometimes my if were going to go on a trip, even I for destrivingto San Diego. Sometimes my mother in law would give them like a little. Idon't know lunchbox wot some stuff in it, and it was always something that Ihad never thought about, having them use in the car or s. You know it's justso interesting how and I'm sure I'd be the same you'd ship. This to me and I'dbe like. Why didn't I think, of all this amasic stuff, because there's somuch out there that you don't know about for Syeah and there're. So manythings like you said you just don't think of or you just don't have thetime to go, get it's like. That would be amazing if I had an extra day, but Imean let's get real, how many of us pack a few days you know before ourtrads more, not me right! So by the time you think ofstuff you're like I can't go, get it and sometimes not by like how many kidsyou have like all the different age di Ha like that's, is that Redford I canhear barking. Dogo e o yeah thought it...

...was errands. I TED OVER HERE SLEEP! So well you guys! This has been sointeresting, I'm so interested in m everything that goes into starting abusiness and how you do it with kids. Like I, I am kind of wondering now thatthings have slowed down a little bit for your new business breed because ofcoronamyris and for mom camp just because you're kind of on hold withthat Um. Do you find yourself making the time that you have more worthwhilewith your kids or um? I don't know like how's it Ho's it been transitioning tohaving more time more momtime. It's so interesting. I feel like everythingthat I was doing, fell off the planet. Right like I, had some responsibilitiesat church and all that's not happening anymore as we're not gathering, and Ihad responsibilities at the kid school I was directing there playing. We werein the middle of rehearsals, which consumed like so much of my time, allof a sudden, that's done and then living in San Diego. We drive like ifyou know California, like you, just drive dry dry, drive dried, like you're,just on the road all day, long just driving to all sorts of things. All theactivities are done so now we're all in our homes altogether and partially homeschooling, the kids. Luckily, my school for the kids they're doing zoom callsso they teach them like the meat of it and then I'm in charge of all thoreschedules, and it's been like such a blessing to die in to do things withthe kids tha. We are doing some more like unique things that we've beenwanting to do, and I go personally for me. I like goback and forth between like this is so fulfilling I've kind of romanticizedlike home schooling, wondering if I could do it, and now I'm like homeschool laws, there's like a special place in heaven for you R to Ak withouta full time. Job Like you literally, I feel like they are sacrificing theirwhole, like life and being to school, their kids, and in my head I sort ofromanticized like Yeh. I mean home schooloud be great, they could get yourwork done by noon and then we could go ake play and go to Disneyland and like,as I see I'm like. Oh my gosh. This is, I have it all wrong, and this is acrazy life and then I swang back like oh so tezton school, and then I findmyself like sort of board too a as like a mom wher like I don't even know whatI should be doing, like maybe e should start a new business right now, the's,something you coan do from home. I neer Foarky, I Erti how these two sides herelike we're, really soaking it up and then, like I'm totally born, I rel the same lk myself, I'm bored, Ihear you I have kids are, but I am. I know the kids are great they're, sohappy to not have to go to school like they miss their friends. There are somedownsides for sure, but for the most part, kids at least mine are kind ofoblivious to everything going out in the world. They're just like this isgreat we're living our best life, although I had to say my kids did acorona virus musical today. Oh, how was that like Thli e? Is this apparent thingfail? Should I not be telling them so much aboutcome on thewirs, you, knowthekids are going to be reading history books about how many people died. I mean I haven't forbid thenumbers whopefuler incorect that are coming and they're going to tell theirkids like yeah. During that time we wrote this musical about cronovirus andthey were like singing and dancing about anyway, like maybe maybe weweren't as sombr about it as we should have lookinbut, but I guess my point islike kids are resilient, like that, like they just take, what's happeningas like truth in their lives, and it doesn't like us, adults, we'restressing out and we're scared and the kids aren't right, e rr, they're prettyresilient and hopeful and happy whatever. I is pretty bold. Well. Thank you guys on that note forbeing here Um, it was really interesting to pick your brains, we'regoing to end with a game or he goes up for a game. Yeah Baby. Yes, okay, we'reGOITTO, O A spelling game. Oh No, the personwill be easy, the first onesfor Erin. I E feeling you need a easy word, Aranatiusia, prominse and thenwe'll take, turns and then we'll play until someone spells on wrong and thenwill be diry. Are you a good feller? I don't know this about you. This is yeah o. This is a hidden talent. You have high time you found out this about. Briunloving Tess, okay, earin. Your word is illuion hard. Already ll, you sin Nice, you did it excellent.Okay, I'm giving bre one that's a little bit harder, but still doable,but definitely harder. Oky, Brei,...

Antonym, an t o and y m nice or she's good ornyour introuble. Soei would have never done that. Brek, it's hard spelling wordsout loud rite, it no Thas IA iwelling, be if youcould really know you can't and a spelling be. I know 'cause. I was in alot of Hem when I was cute little speler colern, I ro Boer a o. You arelike Youre Corse tece or fora okaythis as your hardoil Oshthis. Is your hardone moratorium hy! Guess I don't know you got this, you can do it and yes, Oh i! No why Noyes brinr up your APO culd't want to messup again. That was a tricky one. MORITRIUM AMMOREAAON OT yourself. I was starting at my graharged O. I think when I googled oneof Hem that one was like on like one of a link and like Oo, that's a good one. Ok three years is difficult. Chrysanthemum! Oh, that is one of thoseones. It's one of them. It's from Annagreen Gable. She had to spell hersymthonm CHRYSENTHEMU, tee Ge, R ys, an th, oh Gosh e m UN Ri Press. I almost cheated. I almostheld up sign language e when you popthe and you did it on your own, I'm sounthreade I heardokay. This is much less in doting. I used to spell wordswrong on purpose when they did like spelling. You know like spelling, BAstuff and glasses and stuff. I don't like being up is ecause. You were shy,you deny oh, I would I'm competitive, but I would rather sit in than not budy.See me I'd spell words wrong. So this is my Mu Prite of what I was doingbefore like when you intentionally spell thewrong, because you didn't want to move onto the district level rig. That's UST,whay! That's why so bre you're! Okay with that I'm goingto post the video of this chat right on Facebook, Yeh audio only. I promise no well donespellers even erand. That was a tough word. I think a lot of our listeners rewere Gonn. You e going to go mor and they're going to be like yeah. I haveno idea. Well, it's fine whatever! I I accept that spelling is not my thing,not your thing. You got lots of other things for sure all right, thanks forbeing here guys, thank you so Muc enjoy your cuorantine ias fun to SME. Your faces you too niceto meet you Bri, six millionaire right by man. Well, your word to spell is liberationliberation forward or backward backwards. Backward Oy backwards isbackwarder backwards. I don't know I'Mi'm stalling thinking about the wordLiberation Liberation Andoh. I T A or Heb il good, but way too muchpausing. Oh, come on Thatas, a good interview in spite ofthe Weird Ao glitchy stuff, 's good, hear, erran's voice again, O e MissThem. Now that we're stay at home order. We can't visit them in San Diego re.You friend, we need to figure out a way to do virtual teach you with them yethat would be amaz. I've heard about all these. In fact, we should explorethis for an coming episode. There are all these like virtual game APPs, whereyou can like do video and games at the same time. I don't know what any ofthem are called, but I've heard people talk about 'em and I think they're allther rage, wel 'cause, they're unstuck at home, so everyone's different hingsocial, let's look into it o before we re Wrat this up. Let's tell a littlebit more about this Corona Activity Book K N in Find It yes, so you're going to open up yourcomputer Goo to web browser, preferebly, Google, chrome and you're going to typeWW. DO ACCIDENTAL PARENTING DOTCOM! That's our website. You probably visittheir websit. You've probably never been there, but we do have a websiteand ye need to make it worth US having n the website, because twice nowsomeone has hijacked er, cedheart and erust, multiple Godaddy websizes withthe domain name, I'm like. Why do we even have a website? No one goes there.We only have it so the people can hack Er. Well now we have a reason forpeople to go there. A It's our Koron activity and guide, where you'll findit and you'll also see our coved...

...nineteen update or disclaimer that Iread at the beginning of this podcast. But if you check out just groll downyou'll see the PDF, it's cove, nineteen, a CRONA activity guide book for Kids,and this has such great resources for you to talk about Corona virus viruswith your children like terms and definitions. What is community spreadsocial distancing, executive orders, the difference between shelter andplace and quorantine you'll even have word searches, I'm scrolling. ThereMaze Vazess, coloring, word scrambles, some really really great drawingprojects and there's some subtle gems hidden inthere to try to get your kids to behave a little bit better during this time ofawkwardness. So I I strongly encourage you to go to accidental parenting,dotcom and check out that document. Yeah thanks for making that foreveryone, cal bicser whatit's, the least I could do it is the least youcould do and I may even link to it on facebook. Oh there you go rona for thetwitter, possibly the gram ecept. What the kidsare saying the groom have no idea. Graham Crak. I will see you guys nexttime enjoy e pacing.

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