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Accidental Parenting
Accidental Parenting

Episode 6 · 2 years ago

S01E5: Lights Out!

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Is bedtime chaotic at your house? We discuss bedtime routine hacks that will make a parent's life easier, and Aubrey interviews Jessica D'Entremont about her viral Facebook post and how she's using this platform to raise awareness for sensory processing disorder.

That wa sin take these brokenwing andLeno H, Yeah Li you'rewaiting forma, and, to be me, thegood man, El Andidot, that's a clip of our youngest singingone of her favorite songs at bedtime, blackbird, the Beatle Song. Obviously,and we've always been big fans of the Beatles big fans of Palmicerney'sredition of blackbird. This one became a fast favorite of hers. Thanks to themovie boss, baby such a good movie, reemver puppies Syria, the idea of thefrever puppy, that's pretty genius who wouldn't want forever puppy. Ourneighbors have two of them: Yeah, they'R, Lek ID. You know, Georgia justlike walked into their house a little while ago. She wondered I'd play withone of Hem and she just let herself right in dear. I want to play with theforever puppies and she's obsessed with him almost too obsessed, where I thinkthey might be a little bit scared of her yeah she's, a little rougher withthem, maybe than she should be. That happens yeah once she's older she'llrealize this episode is dedicated to the one one of the most tiring andstressful events of a parents day. Once this we'll call it a process once it'smastard apparent, feels like they can accomplish anything and they're on topof the world and they can finally relax. This episode is the bedtime routineyeah, but later in the episode we'll be talking to Jessica, Dant Romau, I don'tknow if that's how they war- probably not er, I chher Maso, but it is aFrench where it means between mountains, but we'll find out from her how shepronounces it, which is probably different than that, but my cousinshared her post on facebook. It was this brilliant idea of something youcan do to help your kids settle down at bedtime and then her post went viralhas been picked up by all these news outlets and she actually was ongoodmorning America today. So we're excited to hear more of her stories.staytuned for that. The last time that I checked that post, I think it had hadover two hundred thousand shares and a couple of hundred thousand likes prettypretty crazy ye school stuff. So parents typically go through severalbedtime routine phases depending on the age of their children and even thenumber of children that they have. So if we're talking about phases ofbedtime routines, the newborn is probably the easiest yeah they sleepall the time. As long as you can kind of figure out yeah schedule for him,they eat they sleep, they poop long as you're willing to be awake, alot in themiddle of the night, Ta et the sleeping through the Nigyeah yeah. But eventhough they sleep really all the time, it's still important to establish thatroutine because they they grow out of...

...the sleep. All the time face Ye andyou're going to have some some tricks up, Youre in your up your sleeve. Whatyou're? Looking for Yeah Urwhan you're? Looking for in your MAntr Ier Tobacgaka, some arrows in your quiver SOM stones in your bag of stones.I Ols in your shed e Okay eror tools in Ma box. How much tools and e box anywaygot to have some different tricks to make sure that you follow a routine'cause. You need to have something that triggers to them that it's time tosleep N, there's been lots of routines, we've gone throughrlike, you have thedinnertime routine and then bathtime story, time and sleeptime, but evenwone. This routine's establishd there's definitely some hickups, Oh yeah. I canthink of one okay. What is at, like over said dinner bathtime. This is thisis where it can get a little bit tricky back. When our oldest were four and twowe were living in New York, CA, New York City. I can't mut speak. Wewere living in New York City, I got so excited to say New York, city 'cause. Iwas going to say, shot out to New York City and I en believe it. I totally go it anyway.Four and two they're taking a bath, I'm in there helping them get all cleanedup and all of a sudden, my oldest says. Oh my Gosh Dad. Where did all this foodcome from PENILEPE D or One of our children pooped? I don't know N and I'm prettysure we had corn for dinner, an Warren for dinner and suddenly the Tebsll ofCorin. So magical wherein all this food com of Isso, amazing and iffer Forat,it was just a magical and I'm freaking aerting, no on touch anything DTOO. It everybody out of the TUB, disinfectingeverything throwing toys away so like sometimes that bedtime Rautinecan turn into a nightmare and and throw things off right. 'cause. The kids areexcited they're playing someone poops in the Tub and that just ruins thenight afor for the parents. When Avi was little, it was like thelongest bedtime routine. I I would read several books to her every night,probably until she was four like half an hour of reading books and then whensmilt was born that dropped down, I would read one or two to both of themand at the time I mean I was exhausted every night sa S. I was working fulltime during the day so and then who would bathe them and thenwith the books, and it just was so lo turns into a lot and I think for thefor the oldest kids or if, if you've got an only child or just a couple ofkids, parents put more energy into the bedtime routine, a Baledo Ladi everynight, and no do you think kids need a bathroom. So I think I'm a little morelax on Taam. You and I might disagree on this right- we're a little bit morelax, but I still think they need it...

...well. It depends like if they're dirty,they've, like I mean kids, can eat and then they're, filthy or playing outsidelike clearly theymost at certain ages. They definitely need it. NEWBOURNS canget away with it. You know a day or two, but even with newborns, you know theyget that neck cheese with all the je Yo did always caught next yo with allthe milk and yeah they theyi they need they need to Batbur and then, when theystart eating solid they're, making such a mess that they kindof needed, then,and now that they're playing outside. I don't want my kid to be the smelly kidat school. Well, often it's because they swim during the day, they swimsure, and so then they have a bathright after swimming. So they don't need onein bedtime. So I am bathing them every day. We just aren't usually bathingthem. Atig yeah t that's fair, most everyday. Sometimes they just geta God hose hose down after the pool calling it good for that day. So, for along time with the twins, we would divide and conquer. We've got somefriends with with twins and they told us that you know that's how it worksright. The old of the twins get you gotta kind of go man on man, defenceagain, and you know each take one and you'd take a twin I'd. Take a twin we'd,both read 'em a story or sing M Singaasait was like read him a storysing him a song. Tell them a story en they would tell us the story. It waslong E had lont it. It turned into me Falling Asleep Anlam. Sometimes- andthis is that's the thing with a lot of parents right, parents are working hardevery day they get home, they do dinner, they're fighting with their kids aboutdinner, getting them to bed, they lay down to bed and for the I yeah he clash, Prety Sureyeahyou! You came up with a trick where you would tell them I'll either read onestory or we'll sing a song together. Well, it's it started with 'cause. Theywanted a story, and I thought how can I cause the stories just got so long andthey're like oh? What else happens? Oh what else happens? What else are theyWun Havan Aeryet and they're like thenthei'm? Going to tell me story nowis what what well use to say. So it got to the point where I say look: Ai willeither tell you one story or we can sing two songs and, as always, do to they're going to pickthe two so we'd sing, two songs and I'd make 'em quick songs and then I' I'd.You know, leave the room and and they'd go to bed, but this got a little bittricky one a I was so exhausted even too tired to sing songs. So I saidAlexa play nursery rhymes and the greatest thing happens: Ds actuallyplaying Riu Alexo. Stop sorry about that. So the greatest thinghappens just just what we heard right. There Amazon came out with this least.Maybe it was lisalobe. I guess came out. It was like an Amazon o Ridge, Amazon,original playlist and its nursery rhymes, and it was genius as thelow byLisa love s annoying yeah totally they...

...were you, know, cool and hip. Well, Idon't know about that, but not so annoying no list, I mean hey wer, we'rechildren of your Mads Alo Fan D, we're children, cool and surprise. I got you ticketsfor Leser load, she's, Don she's, doing the nursery rhyame routine. It's goingto be a Mame Inn. I mean for that. So yeah and somtly. The kids werehooked on that and every day we would just play that instead of having toread them stories. Yes, an now, we just tell Lisa lobe transitioned us out ofbtype store. We tell our echo to help us with bedtime and it works worse,really. Well and other's just kindof go to bed, yeah sort o say o go to betwell, for the most part, good about an T. go yeah yeah for the older kids,they've been going to bid them by themselves for a while, but now thatthey get older, I feel like we're entering a new phase in bedtime,routines, 'cause they're becoming teenagers. Don't you miss when theywould all go to bed at seven PM? And now it's? Oh, my friends. They go tobed at ten thirty and I'm thinking I would have been nine. You should go to bed at eight thirty,so I have thirty minutes of piece and quiet, but that it's the older they getthe harder it's going to be 'cause. They want to stay up late, causing youknow, other complications. So for the most part they still get about abouteight thirty. On a school night. It's the other nights weekend nights andvacation. There are times that will go to bed or you know everyone will go tobe D, we'll turn on netfliks in her bedroom 'cause, that's usually ourroutine. Our our bedtime, routine and I'll still hear him stomping upstairstomping R, they stopp. I don't know why 's walking and it ust sounds like ihavealways been conscious whenever I'm on a second level to walk softly 'cause, youknow. Otherwise it sounds like you're stumping eslike. What are cloggingupstairs? It's just. It gets so loud best as t Georgia. If she wakes up- andyou hear her- run full spim across the room, just stumping eve, real etrunning everything's, a second. She wakes up just running well, I thinkthat started because she would wake up in the middle of the night to go to thebathroom and got ta run. When you got to go e, go to go it's urgent and thenshe it became a habit to to run, but she has never been like will, will wakeup and just kind o be like woozy and growd and walking slow. She wakes upand it's fully alert and running every day, so for now, we've got that badtime routine down, but we'll likely have some more battles as as they gover SR up. Next is our interview with Jessica and her unique bedtime, routineideahello Jessica. Welcome to the pudcast my every thanks for having meIAM, so excited that you're here and just to introduce you really quick, I'mgoing to make some guesses about you and if I'm wrong, you tell me the rightanswer: okay, okay, Yep sounds good right, so you grew up in Michigan. No.I grew up in New York, ooh Heys, where in New York I kept saying okay, a rightnice and you have one brother and one sister. You were triplets, no, my poorparent. I I have one sister she as a...

...two and a half years younger than me:No triplets, okay, all right and you currently live in Connecticut, I'm currently just outside of Boston inMassachusetts, okay! Well, that was close, not bad, not bad, and your firstcar was a jeep wringler that would have been nice. No. My first car was mydad's old car, which was a Nison Centra, not nearly as exciting nonot at all. Itwould be my dream car as a teenager, to have an old, geep, wringler yeah,something you could just beat on, and it was going to stand up to anythingright. So today we have JESSCA Donsamo. That's how you Satan French. How do yousay? How do you pronounce your last name in the states? We get a lot ofdetrimont, except for one of my good friends who's from Canada, so she getsthe correct pronunciation. Syou just said: Oh Niean, that's the correct tosee it with the French accent, an Aright I like it and I'm Gong to letpeople know how I met you sort of now virtually I stumbled across your postlast week, a cousin of mine shared it to Facebook, and I read it immediatelyand was like this is genius and I immediately messaged Yo for an interview, and when I lookedlast week the post had over two hundred and eleven thousand likes o hundred andtwenty seven thousand shares, but I saw it was picked up by so many newsoutlets. Is it higher than that now Um. I think it's last time. I checkedit it. I think it just crept over two twenty and yeah. The News outlets has beenincredible: it ton from the UK in Australia. They were kind of the firstto come and then in the US here a bit but India, Pakistan, Russia, I meanreally just calls from everywhere. It's been extraordinary Mu. How Fun is it totreck that and see where it's coming from it's fun, because I love having to evendo much of it. I'm getting messages just from everybody, and anybody th issaying you know here it is. I found it again, a in languages that I can'tunderstand and I can't read so it it's pretty fun and you were on good morning, America yesterday. Whatwas that, like that Wasah? They brought me out to NewYork City, and I got to tape with Um, Straingham, Sara and Kiki, and they hadme on is kind of a Gueson that was super furn and exciting. I got to bringmy system, we made kind of a you know, night in New York, girls night out ofit which Lestyou Woud, that's amazing. Howunat least it's somewhere fun to gotoo yeah. It was. It was definitely good, not too far away, which was nice.So can you tell us about the post for anyone who hasn't seen it hers? I was want to say I loved it.They're room just looked like my kids' room every night. Let you're not like.Let me put away a few things and take this picture. No T you're like this isreal. This is how we live. This is what the room looks like when we go to sleepyeah that was actually the room clean,...

...so Ye pession I'll make um the legoseverywhere and the trapoline and the toys and bit I've kind of given up witha three and four year old. As long as it's not food and dirty, you know I'vekind of made. My peace wit ere just going to get all the toys out again.Why would you put them away every night? No, no Bo, I'm pretty sure they see itas a challenge. If I pick up the room like how how much worse can we makethis Mon Hasa Clean and how cumsed? Yes exactly so yeah, I mean it just kind ofwas aspar of the moment idea. We had quite a bit going on that someday. Iwork for a company called care dimensions and we have our annual walkfor hospice, which is Um more fun than it probably sounds, but very crowdedand very loud and very noisy, and then we had all the typical Sunday herrandsthat we had to do after so by the time I got them home. They were justcompletely out of sorts, they have um some special needs that were justcontributing to the whole thing, and I was trying to put away their clothesbecause it's finally starting to feel like fallher in Massachusetts and Um.We just needed a second of calm for me to do that. That's where the pajamascame in yes, and so you have these glow in the dark. Padanas and now are theyactually glow in the darker? Did you just tell them there? It does have Boanthe dark material on them. They do so they do glow in the dark, and I thinkthat was what o I got a couple of messages about and have to resureeveryone. They really do they do D, it wasn't just lying. It wasn't. I I liked to say it wasmaybe a been of a stretch of the truth, because if they do Stan nder the lightthey do glow rigter. Yes, just you don't necessarily have to be sight. LwyDon't have to vesayit and still- and so that's what it was. You told them. Ifyou lie very still and silently, then it will charge the glow on you're goingTAT urpjs right. Yes exactly so I have them lying on the floor and I have tostap a picture because to see them so still like that in quiet when they'reawake is, is just unhard of so I have to stop the pitcher first fom, myhusband and some family members and then just the look on their face. Youcan tell they were they were willing that light to charge those Pajamathey're so serious about it. They are. They were wooping out, whateverpreschool getie mine tricks they had and they were making at work. Yes, andthen you said you now put them in the drawer so that during the day theydon't blow and they actually do have to sort of charge it right. Yes, sothey're, quite smart Um, and so, as we all know, little kids figure things outa lot quicker than we might think they would Yo know we stuck them in thedrawer, so that they've asked the second time they said no they'll glowand we show them with the light. Sougs and they'll: Look: they don't reallyglow anymore, you're, really going to have to charge them back up again andsince then they've been they haven't, tested us again. So in it's beenworking out well, it'SSO, SMART! I need to get glow in the DERK TO DART PAJAMAS.I have five year old twins and just...

...before bed they're always bunkers likebouncing off the walls and it's a fight every night to get them just to bestill and lay in bed and come down just to be relaxed. You know, and this woulhardly work. We would totally wait it. It makes lottal sense. I mean, if youthink, about yourself having to calm down in transition from the Gogo go togetting up in bed, and so many mom friends and just people. I know thatsay you know it takes me forever to fall asleep and you kind of forget thatlittle kids are probably having those same issues, but they don't have theworms or the independence to be able to cide when they go to bed so findingways to incorporate that calm and get them their bodies and their minds kind ofquieted, so they can actually go to sleep, is is corucial for us for sure Ineed to get. I saw you posted on face book. A link fir like some wetched buyaglow in the dark pajamas and I iona. I need them yeah. We we got a couple of extraparents oad in our way, because we only have the one and though they will stillcharge them. They know with a very certain. They know, certainly whichones don't charge and they've, not Falli O bat, so they need the real ones,the ones that charge cest. We've got more on the way for sure. When did youfirst learn that your post had gone viral? What was your reaction? Um? Itwas a bit surreal. I think if I recall correctly W we, I posted an andremember Saaying, very quickly it had like two or three hundred leks, whichis a tone in my world and no anything over kind of fifty or sixty is like wowand then I remember, we went to bed one night and I think we woke up the nextmorning and my husband had said well just check the post. I wonder what it'sthat and it was in seventy thousand and we kind of B stared at that, and hethought I was joking. I said it's TAT. Seventy thousand his like seventythousand. It was just incredible. We just didn't know really what hadhappened yet and then what's it been like since then, with all like newspeople, do theycontact you or do they just share it and post it? A Lot have contacted me Um askingpermission. So I did quite a few interviews, especially in the firstdayWednesday, was when the news outwas really started coming, and so I didquite a few different interviews over the phone and online and then, after that Iwillhave people that will occasionally message me. Nas to use it, we have somepeople that are using it without permission. Bu, my husband and I talkedabout it and very early on decided. We weren't going to sign any kind ofexclusivity contracts which we have several offers for as long as it'sbeing shared in the spirit which would be to you know, make parents and carecavers and everyone laughs and no one's. You know charging people for thes. Wewere kind of okay with everyone sharing it. I love that and just to get outthis idea that this is actually a...

...really good idea for a bendtime routineto help your kids come down in a fun way. Yeah. It's really great. I mean,if you think, about Yoga and meditation and how many schools and things arefinding we ased to introduce yoove and different things into their curriculum.So the children are too young for meditation at three and four. They justdon't get it, but you think they must be doing their version of it if they'relying tha t still in that silently. So it's a really nice introduction forthem. Yes and I'm curious um I'd like I hope all the feedback has been positive,but I know that sometimes there will be random negative stuff that you wouldn'teven expect on something that have you received any negative feedback or hadto block anyone since your post. So that's probably been my favorite partabout all this, just like you said when things get that much attention and thatmuch people that many people are weihing in and talking about it,there's got to be some portion that are upset or have a problem, an Ta issuewith something right so and we haven't had that. I think I read one post outof maybe seventy or eighty thousand comments and that's just off my post,it's not including in the ten or twenty thousand, not the individual postershave gotten. I rend one comment that said: If you lie to your kids, they're,never GOINGTO, learn to talk to you, and you know it was one person is funnybecause, like the moms and the caragivers like jumped on 'em, I didn'teven Hav the Knave, because we all know no you're going toneed to tell those little white lives, sometimes yeah, and it's it's so funfor me because it's it's reminiscent of my dad's parenting with me and mysister, it's completely something that he would have done to us and Um. YouKnow I love my dad so much and I have nothing but the fondest memories of allthe little tricks d and things that he played on us and looking back andthinking how funny that is, maybe not as a twelve year old, but you know nowas an adult with my own kids thinking how great it is so, but the overwhomingresponse has been amazing and I've kind of been trying to explain it toeveryone in this. You know: Compliments on the post and I kinda keep saying youknow it's not it's not the post ots extraordinary. It's! It's really thereaction that everyone's Hadand, how everyone just embraced, the kind ofgood humor and an innocent joy. That's come a bit, it's not for Sir! Well, youcan't look at that quick sire. You can't look at that picture of yourgirls lying still on the floor and not just like laug, and just it does c. It does spark joy. I it's been good, so I've been reallyI've been really excited about that positivity! It's it's really made it ahundred times better of experience, I'm so glad to hear that and fingers crossthat that continues, and I have every reason to think it should, because it'ssuch a positive message of helping other parents with it with a part ofbedtime, Reutine, that's Togh, right right, exactly so telling them thattheir jamies had to charge in order for the glow in the dark to work. I feellike as a perfect example of accidental...

...parenting. In our mind, sexonalparenting is just making it up on the fly, and sometimes ouraes are great andother things they are not, and I'm wondering you tell me Bo another timethat you've accidentally gotten at right or wrong. Oh my goodness, I I oneof the things that always strikes out N my mind an I know: I'm going to losethis sens the whole its closing arguments. So you know you drive by apark and you have a bunch of groceries on the back seat n there defosting andOh Mommy. Can we stop at the park and you see like one person leaving beOhwell, look everyone's leaving. It's closing. It must be closed and it's just so funny when you have tokind of think about the things you say to your kids and how they believe youand then they kind of turn it back on you at other times. You know I'll askwell we'll say: well we're going to go to the park when Mommy, you told me itwas close last time after dinner and you're like oh well, not today to todaythat's different because it just exactly that's another perfect example likegenius, rather than just sing. No, we have to go home 'cause. We havegroceries in the car. You know give Hem a better idea that they're going toaccept more easily, but they can definitely backfire. Yeah, there's there's something aboutpicking your battles for sure, but we all know. Even if you don't want topick the battle, sometimes you have to and another part of it is just alwayskind of think to myself. No one's going to love me quite as much as my kids atthis exact moment in their life needs. Just you know. The parents areeverything and no matter what we do and they think the mean rises and sets byUS and Um. So you don't always want to be that voice of disappointment. Sothings like that Oyeah, that's true right! I tell my kids: Don't ask things,you know, I'm going to say no to Si. OIT have to say no all the time I Iwon't be able to say yes, so I I I'm not ashamed to admit that Ifacebook stocks you a little bit and read back on e wall, and I I learnedthat you're an advocate for centry processing disorder and I'm guessingthat's what you're, referring to or your kids sort of, have some specialneeds at bed time things that compound it. What's the background there? What'syour goal in reasing awareness for censory processing, disorder, yeah, sosensory processing disorder. The very first thing I suppose about it is asnot recognized as a stand alone. Diagnosis in the states here, which meansessentially treatments and insurances. They don't have to pay for it. So ifyou have a child that has it without another diagnosis like autism or AHD,or they they don't have to to help you essentially Anso. We stumbled Um onearly intervention, which was fantastic and they really kind of clude us intowhat sensory processing disorder is and how to help our oldest at the time washaving an extremely rough time. We had a really hard time from about her beinga year and a half to three, not knowing...

...what her quality of life was going tobe, and you know how much support she was going to need an luckily she'sdoing she's doing very well with the support of occupational therapist orearly intervention team and now she's n an Ip over at her public schools. Sothat's great and then come to find out. Our youngest one might actually be moreat what they call kind of a sensory child that, even though she doesn'thave some of the same delays that our oldest has so it wouldn't have been aparent. NO THAT'S KINDOWERE! I start thinking about it 'cause I so manyfriends who kind of will say: Oh well, I hear you talkingabout that. What is it that sounds like my child, like? What does that thatmean yeah? That's what I'm wondering what are some of those signs andsymptoms that parents can be aware of Um, so one of the things they kind totalk about is you have seekers, and you have avoiders and art kids aren't botha mix which makes it extra fun. We never know what we're going after, butum seekers, you'll kind of see might be the children that never stop moving.That are spinning that a jumping. You know the kids that Kindo come up andand hit you when you're distressed and not in a you know, in a mean normaltoer, growing up kind of way, but the ones that do it with that that distressand that you know using it, doesn't elt lit Um, you kind of start to thinkthey're. Looking for that, so we might give instead of saying no, you can'thit, we would say we don't hit people, we hit drum and hand them a drum, andso they get to pound and get that sensoryinput. My children are Jumpers,which is why you can see the trapoline and the picture when they start to getso upset, they're out of control and they're crying, and they can't talk. Iactually will hold their hands on the trapoline while they jump and we'llhave conversations like that and the input their feeling from jumping allowsthem to actually regulate and express their emotions. Better Um and avoidersare a little bit easier. They might be the kids that you see wearingheadphones at the mall to kind of bring down the stimulus, um ll. Everyone kindof sees that kid at the birthday party, that's having a great time and all of asudden they're rolling around on the ground screaming and the interestingthing about censoryg processing disorder is really we all have it tosome degree. It's when it starts to interfere with a child's ability tofunction and to kind of be their best self that you start to think of thatneeds some extra support hat. They can learn how to handle those inputs,gotcha yeah. That makes sense. I I'm curious, you know, sort of what's tnext for you and your family, do you have plans to try and get that messageout there more now that you have a little bit more of a platform I mean. Certainly, we've decidedeeveryone. That's responded to me and messaged me from all around the world.I've been trying to message them wall back and and chat individually withthem. Um One of the big things for us was when we said people could use. Thestory was to add that bit about sensorprocessing disorder, just vingget the NA ow to get people asking.

What is that that kind of sounds likemy my child? So I'm coming out yoaso excited to be invited onto yourparecast today to talk about this as well, because I think sometimes justhearing about it and hearing oh well. There might be something more that Ican do. There might be something different that I can do. It is justgreat for parents, because, especially if it's your first child or even yoursecond or your third, you know- F, you don't know what's going on. Is S Thisjust have kids act and Quis my kid out of control when I see all the otherkids not and there's some really simple changes that can usually be made tohelp them out a lot right, and if you had never heard of sinsory processingdisorder, you wouldn't know to consider that, as as a possibility yeah. To behonest, I don't think so. If my first, my second child had come first, I andthere had been no issues with M my next. I don't think I would have ever learnedthat she had this because she can she can function,whereas my first had some delays and things that went along with it, and sowe had to out of necessity, explored a bit more, and so we were more watchfulwhen our second came along, but um but yeah. I don't know that we ever wouldhave been very aware of it, and I think that's one of the things as well.People kind of hear censoring processing and they sometimes willthink a lot of the respons I get from parents is well. Does that mean theyhave autism when they're Tosticki Aid? Well, it might many children, whoon'thave autism or HD and things you have sinsere processing, but plenty ofpeople have censory processing that don't have any other diagnosis and mkind of the most important thing is just looking at it as who my child isand what do they need and not really worry as much about the labels and whatthey mean so much as what do we do to get them the most help, so they canfunction. Definitely, I'm so glad that you came on today. Thank you so muchfor being on our pudcast to get that message out there not only to find outwhat it's like to have a POSTCO viral, but also to learn more aboutsensryprocessing disorder, which I hadn't heard of before. To be honest-and it's been interesting to read up about it a little bit and Um. So thankyou for that. Yeah! That's awesome thing! So much for having me it's beenso much fun yeah, so we're going to end with a short game. I am a huge fan ofgames, I'm always making everyone around me play games. Wit me I're, going to play two truths and alie. I ogo Hirst, I'm going to say three things. Two of them will be true,and one of them will be a lie and then I'll have you guess and I'll reveal theanswer for me, but then for you, we're going to have you say two truth and alie and we won't reveal it we're going to put it out there for our listenersto guess and then on our in a week on our next Pat Gass, we will reveal thecorrect answer: Sask. Okay, so here are mine. First Ready MHM. I have plantedover a thousand trees. I have never had...

...a pet. I have been to fifteen countries whichof those is a lie. I'm Gong to go with wl, I'm Ginh to go with the pet you'reright. I have never had a pet. We had animals growing up, they werelike practically Ferrel, all of them outside you would never like pet one ofthem. You know they were never in the house. So mybrothers and sisters might disagree that they thought of that as a no. Idid not tch father and you couldn't getattached to them because we lived on a really busy street where the potatotrucks would huge trucks would come by going really fast and so we'd lose themoften, and you just you, couldn't be attached, then, like you could ae petand then ever since I've had kids and older, I beieve just never had a pet ye. All done. You got that Ey, I wouldsay with twins, that's probably enough of a challenge right there. That istrue, though, maybe having a pet would distract them sometimes, but it'salways the mom that ends up taking care of the pet and just can't our children are obsessed the older one,especially with having a pet, and we keep telling her well you'll, have tohelp with cleaning up, including its poo. When she says well, I'm going toget a pet that doesn't do that less YEP, here's one! It's we bought it at thestore we've given our kids for Christmas. Oh,here's, a new puppy, alittle bark and pretend to beat Itokay. So, let's sureyours, what are your two truths in one lan all right, so I knew my husband for two weeks before wemoved in together Um. I have attack two, the symbolic ofeach of my children somewhere, and I am terrified of heights butpurposefully engaged in things like Bungey, jumping and sky diving becauseof em, I'm so curious to find out which one is true. So I'm excited all of youvote in the comments when we post this podcast, thesebook or Instogram, whichone you think is the lie, and we will let you know next week, Jessica, thinkhe's so much for being on the PAG. Desser was so fun tratting with youtoday, Absolu Iada couple of things that I am really blown away with. Withthis interview, one Jessica, Dan tremant, not bad O com. You say O ts again a couple of things that I'veblown away with one Jessica, Don Como. It's as if I just said, let's see whatwe did. There made my voice deeper, so well, spokand. So many great ideas andsuch a great lighthearted philosophy on parenting really enjoyed listening tothat interview and too it seems like Aubry. This has been your what fivehundredth interview,...

...you're natural, if this that was sosmooth great style, great questioning and I look forward degering moreinterviews from you well, thank you s. She was wonderful, so easy to chat with.I really have no idea which of those is a lie. I want to ask where the tattoosare. I feeling I'd be able to tell if that's true, if I ask and if she's likeor if she has a quick like if she yeah yeah how delayed the answers. Iprobably think that it's the heyhts thing who intentionally goes Bungee,jumping or sky diving when they're afraid of heights, but I'm afraid Oheith not about to do any of those t. Then again, no one moves in togetherafter two weeks, so maybe they're all lies. She pooled, as on kidding theire,all lives all right. Everyone vote on social media, we'll put a poll outthere somewhere what probably face books, yeah yeah yeah. That sounds likeood good place for a poll and we'll get her answer in in the podgest. For thenwe drop potentially next Monday, still no commitment for o commitment,Mie Nit Monday, thanks for listening.

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