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Accidental Parenting
Accidental Parenting

Episode 13 · 2 years ago

S01E12: Game Time

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You may have noticed we like games. Not only do we play a game at the end of each episode, but we play games all the time! Today we chat about the games we played growing up and those we now play with our kids. We share research about the benefits kids get from playing games and what they learn from different types of games.

About a year and a half ago, Aubrey and I decided to take a little road trip over to California during spring break and on this road trip we decided that we were going to try to get on the prices right, and if you've ever done the prices right, you know that it's quite the living process or deal. We actually went two days. The first day. What happened the first yeah, we just didn't get in. We were a few minutes late and there was a huge line there already and we didn't get on. So we were all the we were behind the cutoff, but they gave us tickets that guaranteed us for the next day. So yeah, that's when the real waiting game began. Do you remember how long we waited before they actually taping? Three or four hours. Seem like it was six hours for a probably three or four hours. That's an accurate answer. And we're sitting there in line and somehow, I didn't even know how this happened to you, Dad, he's girls walked up, but they were like kind of walking along and they said, does anyone know how to play Yuker? But they were trying to find people who knew how to play you car in the whole line of people and I was like, I do we do you did you already know? It's funny because we had learned how to play Yuker from Michael and Laurie Grimes. Oh, that's right, but he had come to visit us and they taught us Ukr and now, well, I learned in college. I played in college, but that's how I do. Yeah, so we said yes, we'll play and we ended up playing for like two two hours, at least three hours, fields so much time inline playing you can with everyone around us. A college girls from the Midwest. It was kind of an amazing experience and it was fun. The reason we tell that story is today is all about games. Yeah, we're talking about Games, games you can play with your kids, Games you play as a family. If you've listened to any of our podcasts, you know that Aubrey is the ultimate Gamer. She loves to play Games, she loves to end each episode with the game. And it didn't just start as an adult. She's been a Gamer her whole life. Yeah, I grew up playing games my family. It was they're like why would we sit around talking to each other when we could be playing a game and my time while we play a game. My family was why would we play a game when we can just sit here on talking to each other? And it's not that we didn't play games growing up, we just didn't play him that all. We played all, like every Sunday night we would play games with sit around the table and play board. I remember playing pictionary a lot and that one was funny because my dad's an artist and often when hit go to draw something, it would be from like a bird's eye perspective or something right view d and so like it's this amazing drawing, but usually he would lose because it would take it dumb down for us and we could have figure out what it was and then he'd be so frustrated hit like these upset that we couldn't tell what it is. Obviously it's this. But yeah, we played a lot of games. We play every Sunday night and my experience with games, like I said, I don't recall playing a lot of games until I was a teenager or, you know, later as an adult. I do remember my siblings coming over with friends playing games and because of that there are certain games that I still refuse to learn, like what the settlers of Katan. Is that announcer? I do not know how to pronounce this game. Some people's I settlers, but it's a settlers. It's settlers. Settlers have settlers of Katan Han. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Way, I would like to play that game. I played that, but I don't know. I like it, but you refused to another game that I refused to learn for a long time, scum. Oh, but I love scum. We played all the time. Yeah, and now one of our favorite games teach you is a lot like variations. Will get into teach you a little bit more, because that's the ultimate in my opinion. So kids that are pre k like there are certain games you can play with kids, you know, when they're three or four years old, and some good ones that we found. We found this game, this animal Bingo game that we actually found in a garage. So this was the best game, that best ever, but it was missing one of the cards. And so do you remember what I did? Yeah, so hold on. So this game, it it's a Bingo game and it came with five or like a number of circular cars. We got it from a garage sale and it was missing one. So you drew. I feel like you drew...

...one. I date I drew it. I like drew it and colored it together, like there's a picture of what the cards should have looked like on the on the we just know. We just knew because we had the other ones and we knew because we had the pieces that were extra. So we knew it was missing. So I recreated one of the laminated it. Will have to post a picture. We still have that game. Yeah, Ten Ring Games, great game for kids, those little Bingo Games, those are good for kids because they're recognizing animals and shapes and colors and, yeah, and they're the dexterity of having to like pick up that. They would like draw a piece out of the bag and put it where it goes and they're learning their animals. Right. We played with that. The one they were pretty little and like connect for is a good one for really little kids. One that I never understood, and I know you always played this with our kids, was candy land. Yes, is it pretty much just rolling dice? No, there's no dice. It was a little spinning wheel. Maybe it shoots a latter confusing the streets. It's either one. It's either just spinning a wheel and going and then we're just really like there's certain no aud yet base object to the g sure there is. You're racing to the end and it's really good for kids because you have to count spaces like if they will for they got to move for and then what happens? I'm not saying that it's not good for kids. I'm just saying it's the most pointless game in the world because you're literally just spinning. There's no skill. It's spinning counting. They want there to be skill involved. When you're playing with the three year old, yes, that's why you don't like playing games at three year old. Yeah, see, I play with them. I'm like, I recognize this. The good for the kids. They're learning how to lose. They're learning how to lose without crying. And when I'm playing with him, I'm like, you got to roll a seven or eleven. It's it's all or nothing here. There's the is a highst always crying when they're being that's a good one, though. And both of those candy land and shoots and ladders, they like. I played them over and over and over and but I did feel like they were learning something right. They're just learning. Either they're counting or they're learning their colors. They're definitely learning better handy coordination as they're doing things. Well, even the patients of waiting for their turn. Yes, he's and that's all just taking turns. Yeah, for sure. And then we'd play card games like go fish, crazy, eights, old maid, lots of those games. We summary Games. There's a really good game that we had growing up that my sister and I would play all the time. It's called picture picture. We have it actually. Yeah, my mom was cleaning out I don't know if it was the cabin or their garage, and she had a box of old games and she asked if I wanted this picture picture game and I can't find it anywhere online. We have at the girls play it. It's a lot of fun. Concept is it's one of those hey, look at this image and write down everything you can, everything that you can think of for the next thirty seconds or whatever. Yeah, which is really good for just helping them get just those memory skills. Yeah, I being able to have a good recall, fast recall. Right, and then when they're a little older, once their kindergartener, a little bit beyond that, there's lots of fun games, like morphology junior is a fun one for so we have my fault, morphology for all. You have morphology. Forget the junior. That's a good one. Your's good to you know. It's the cards are simpler, so it's things that are a little easier for them. Was Game has all kinds of little things, like little colored, you know, marbles and squares and all this stuff, and you have to it's almost kind of like pictionary, only or guesters, like charades, but you have to use these little items to get people to guess. That one ended up being a main staple for all the birthday parties that our kids would have to go to. Yes, we would go buy your order online. More followed. We loved it and our kids loved it. Yes, that's a fun game. And now, hold on, that's different, though, in my mind, better than I think Lego has the creationary yeah, not too many small pieces, too many legos. Morphology Junior. If you're going to do a game where they have to build and create something, look up morphology junior. Way better than creation. Yeah, I can't tell you how many times I've had to pick up that creationary game. They just gets ever, because they see it as Legos. It's like, Oh yeah, let's play this game now, dad build me an airplane. It's just kind of math. And then corkle. Corkle's are really fun one and it's all these different it has the square, Black Squares, small black squares with colored symbols on them. There's like circles and squares and clovers or whatever, and you have to build a pattern. Oh yeah, that's the one.

It's kind of like dominoes, but you can't match, like you have to align colors and shape, but you can't repeat exactly right. Yeah, yeah, that's a good I always get confused because there are so many q games out there. I was thinking cubits, cubits, but then I was thinking twelve. Yes, and then I started thinking you said corkls. I started thinking Farkel, which is another one. Dice is really good. The dice fun some of my game ones. Yeah, and for sure. And then mastermind. Did you play a master mind growing up? I played that all the time. Going I didn't growing up. It wasn't until we got married that I started playing master. It's this little grid. You have these little colored pegs and one of you hides a pattern of colored pegs and the other one has all these chances to try and guess the pattern and you are letting them know if something's right color but in the right wrong place, and it's really fun to have good when you're at the right color combination sort of thing. In fact, I posted a picture of the speaking spell. I saw that target right next to it. That may have been a light right, but next to that was a mastermind. They sell that been to versions of master we may need to update ours. Yeah, hers this kind of old. I think what we what we did is we had two versions of the game and we combined it into one so that it was twice as many colors to choose from, and suddenly the game got really, really hard. So we haven't played it much. So I have played with the kids, but it's interesting and when you first play with them they're like this is so hard, it's breaking my brain. And then to play with them a few times and they get really good at it and he's like you see them getting smarter. It's really good game for that right. It definitely builds critical thinking skills. Oh, and then chess and checkers. Yeah, the kids play checkers all the time. Now will are probably really good and lovel she is so good. Did she beat be? Beat me that? I beat her the first game, then she took me the next one and then I said okay, time for me to really show her. She beat me again. To beat you when you're really trying twice? Yeah, it's really trying. And we play the rules where like if you have an option to jump, you have to take you half to champ. Yeah, that's the real way to play and it gets quite difficult because she sets you up. She knows how to set you up and well, she played chess first, so she knows that. She's got to think about strategies chess. Remember she played with Lucy that one. Like she's she played chess. She kind of hadn't for a little while. But yeah, so checkers is easy if you got chest down right, which we also need to get a new version because we've got a one piece is like a red token instead of a red checkers piece. I think that happens with all chess and checker sets up losing the pieces. I know when we were kids we had a chess set. It was a nice wooden chest set and one piece was is like a plastic pond because one of the nice wooden pieces got lost. We had a really nice, like hand carved wooden set growing up that we always played and miraculously no piece ever was I think they still have all the pieces to that one. It's impressive. I played a lot with my dad chest growing up. Did you play with your dad or did you play growing up chest much? Yeah, I did a lot, and we had this other one called King's court, which I don't think they make anymore either. We still have it there, like these marble pieces, but it's kind of like chess and checkers but a little different. It's a really fun one too. Yeah, some of these Games, which another game that you the farming game, is like you're farming game, best game, which I love. You and Idaho. What's the greatest game to play? The farming game. It's amazing. You have a farm and you have like your crops and then you do like your hay cutting or your grain cutting and you might land on something that's like frost freezes your crops good or whatever. It's sounds thrilling, right, guys, that game. Yeah, what was the other one with the the forest and chanted forest? Yes, and chanted forest. I don't think they make that anymore either. That's a great game. You just would you're let going around and when you get to a tree you could look at the bottom of it and your end. They were all like related to fairy tales. That'd be like a glass slipper or, you know, the pipe Piper's pipe or something, and then you you were. It's like racing to the end to anyway, it's a good one. My parents still have it, but it's super old and falling apart. I don't think they make it anymore. You know, they don't build them like they used to. It's true. Whoever made enchanted for us, if you hear this, you guys start making that one again. I would totally buy that game. Sleeping Queens. The kids play that a lot now. Uh Huh. It's like a car game, and they're a bunch of good car games now, like Taco, cat, goat, cheese,...

...pizza and killer bunnies, kill her bunnies, which is so complicated that you don't want to learn how to play it. I love it, just trust me. This is a lot exploding it exploding kittens is a really fun one. Those are always funny. It's yeah, kind of to play those with older kids. Yeah, because there's a lot of humor on the cards. Like it's funny. But but there are some other really good card games out there. Pretty much anything that GRANDPA back does. Oh Yeah, GRANDPA, you notice I said Grandpapa because it's GRANDPA back, not GRANDPA GRANDPA back. He does. He's got, I don't know, five or six games out there. I think golf is a common one. That's that most people know how to play. My personal favorite of his. There's two that I really love. One is cover your ass sets and the other is skull king. skulking best game. It's kind of like a spades type trumps to trump game with with some variety and tates. And one of our best vacations away from kids was in Mexico with two other couples sitting at the resort and inside this resort there was a there was like a little restaurant that was sis in the middle of the pool though. Yes, it was a pirate ship built into the middle of a pool, a little bar and restaurant, and we sat there late at night playing skulking beast. It was amazing. Yeah, that's a really good game and they came out with a new like a booster packer, like a second addition that has mermaids and a crack and like it made it even more complicated but really fun to chuck out a skull King. That's that's one of our all of the GRANDPA back games are good. I just said GRANDPA. I think it is GRANDPA, similar to Costco, one of our all time favorite games, and we mentioned it earlier in the episode teach you mm and this is when it's a very complicated game. Very most Westerners do not understand the complexities behind the rules of this game. Yeah, I guess it was a supposed to be like a Chinese game and the instructions say like Oh, Europeans have a very difficult time learning this game. That may sitter just whatever. That may have just been a marketing ploy to get met Westerners to start playing. Maybe, maybe. But the tricky thing about that game is there's so much strategy. It's such a great game, but it's hard to play with kids because it's kind of difficult strategy that's hard for even adults sometimes to learn. Yeah, when we first learned we were in San Diego visiting our friends there. They taught us how to play teach you and it was hard for me to pick up. Like the first two or three times you played it was right, I don't know what's happening. We left San Diego and I was like, Oh, crd, I don't know if I can handle this game. It's way over my head. Fortunately, there is a teach you APP for the IPAD or the iphone. Yeah, we both download download the APP that he'll learned how to play and then we went back and we're able to hang with our sens up pretty quick, but I think it's because I grew up playing games. I had played so many games. I think they were surprised at how fast I picked up. I was like I've got this, but it's one of those games that it's a bit addictive and we ended up wanting to play it with each other and with other people. It's really hard to teach people. So we started to teach our kids and even though it's really complete lex we were able to dig a regular deck of card, regular deck of cards, added a couple of specialty cards and play the base and we kind of simplified it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we actually call it Harley because there were Harley Davidson motorcy because on the backs of that day is Harley Davidson motorcycs kids. And Yeah, we play with them and they're they're getting really good at it. I can see them getting a hang of the strategy and eventually we're going by the transition to realty, to it. Cannot wait. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, and in the meantime we can play with our neighbors. Yeah, there we go really good at a taughter next door neighbors how to play. We played with them. We play plotter. What, what's a week? Yeah, they picked it up fast and they the same thing. They downloaded the APP and he helps the time to be able to play it on. So we've talked about some of the benefits for playing games with kids at a younger age. Right, the mental development color shapes memory. You know, even into adulthood, there are lots of benefits. I think that when you talk about people that are getting elderly and older, they like to play games to stay sharp. It, you know, keeps them remembering things, keeps them focused on different things. So I think there's a lot of different value...

...in being able to play games like that. Yeah, I think it's also key that it's something kids can do that's fun and that's not at all like screen. There's no digital like. Everyone unplugs and so especially if you if you can play a game clear all the way to the end without checking your phone or letting anybody know plug in, then that's increasing attention span. We actually looked up an article where a doctor was saying this will in an increase your kids attention span if you can play a board game all the way to the end. Yeah, it's worth it just for that. Yep. And and not to mention, and I will mention, not to mention the social connection that you get just playing with games, playing games with other people, and then language skills. There are a lot of games like boggle. I love boggle. You won't play with me. Do not play any word games at the Aubrey. She's gonna win. It's so fun. And passwords a fun one, and then I'll just love playing with anyone. I'm like, I'll do handicap. You can write three letter words and I'll only right five letter words. But they'll boost their language skills right, they're learning words, they're learning how to spell all of that exposure to language is is so good for kids. Also, board games are an alternative to time out. I read something was talking about this. The playing games with your kids is one of the best ways to work on a parent child relationship and they were saying it can be used to increase frustration tolerance in a child. So as you're playing a board game, they're going to get frustrated, they're losing, like things are going to happen, they're geting frustrated. They build up a tolerance for that. They realize like it's okay to fielter fuf frustrated. I don't have to throw a temper Tandrum, I don't have to lash out right. So instead of having all these, you know, frustrations in your kid and you're putting them in time out instead, it's sort of a preventive measure for that. Yeah, so I like that. A preventative, prevented doings, presentative. Yeah, to time out. When you say a replacement for time out, I was thinking, wait here, in trouble, quit hitting your sister, lets you got to play a board game now. I was so good. Miss spoke. They're like, yeah, he's look on your face. Wait a second, I don't know that we want to punish kids by making them play our games. Risk three hours of monopoly. You're gonna get it. It does kind of sound like a punishment. Yeah, I have never monopoly is not my favorite. Or risk pandemic. We went to this. There's this place in tempe that's like it's kind of a coffee shop, which a board game coffee shop. Every board game you can imagine there and you go and just play their board games and the server was like, I recommend this game pandemic. So we tried it. None of us had played it. You're trying to like save civilization from an epidemic, and it was awful. We couldn't figure it out from instruction. Yeah, I'm not opposed to learning and playing pandemic. I am opposed to doing it in so coffee shot off who are like paying by the hour. This just there right. They Oh, you guys should play monopoly, this is a great one, and that's just way to recommended it if we're paying by the OAR. I didn't remember that, but I think you're right and just like Oh, this way, they'll have to pay to learn the instructions and then play in this going to be five hours perfect. Everyone recommend pandemic. Yeah, yeah, it's probably a great game, I'm sure it is. Yeah, some days, some day, will learn that one. And then they teach the value of teamwork. So lots of board games. Yes, you're learning how to lose graciously, right, and you're learning how to win graciously where you're not boasting if you're winning right and then. But also just the value of playing on a team and working together toward a team goal. You know, sports are great for that, but also board games. Lots of Bar Games are playing. I was that's interesting. I was talking with a buddy at work who was telling me, and he's done some research and taking some classes in psychology. He was telling you about this, this famous psychology study from the S or s when they could do experiences on on kids without letting them know that they were doing experiments. They pitted two summer camps against each other. So they were neighboring summer camps and they intentionally went and raided the other ones camp and did something, you know, still their flag or something, and they they did these things and try to blame the other camps. So these...

...these camps were really hate each other and it worked right. Turns out you pretended to create a rival right drive. Yeah, exactly. But then their goal and doing that was, now that we've got this rivalry, how do we fix it right? How do we undo the rivalry? And they found that in order to do it, to undo the rivalry, they mixed teams. So they took everyone from the summer camps and put him in mixed teams and had to make them solve like a challenge. I don't know if it was like I had to had competition or something that felt like, you know, life and death in air quotes, not that it was life and death, but then coming together as a team and working together to complete this challenge, it fixed the rivalry. No longer were a rival. So that just made me think of that. When you're talking about and see like a team building activity that a company would do where they're bringing people from different apartments and mixing up the teams. They getting them to build those team use social interactions to solve a problem. Yeah, definitely. So we need to play a game, of course. Hold on, before we play a game, I think you should talk about your game book. I need to get's Kun finished. Isn't finished now that I have two jobs, so I don't ever have time to write. Aubrey's plan was when the when the twins went to school, that she was going to write a game book and she started it, Huh, and has completed a good portion of it, basically focusing on different types of games that you can play with different numbers of people and group sizes and even ages. I think you've got it broken onto types of games like road trip Games, Card Games, board yeah, because we should only talk about road trip games. Yeah, there's so many friend read trick games to play with kids and we have a tendency to just give them each a device, but that's like the best. I Love Road trip games. So let's talk about a few, right. Had Yeah, the to that we would always play growing up. One was ghost and it's that's like you can't spell. If I've let her work, can't spell a word. So if you've got for people playing, you can't spell a yeah. So each person go, our next person's is like a yeah, and you get to where you can't. You can't spell a five letter words correct to keep going and either bluff if you don't know a bigger word and they can call you. It's a fine it's a good spelling. That was a good one. But my personal favorite we called it the e game and it was the game where you couldn't say any words that had the letter e in it, and ultimately it ended up with all of us sounding like Tarzan in the car saying you talk, court, no talk. It's a good one. When someone would say a word with an e in it, we would all say ha ha ha, you is out the e game, the egame We've played with our kids and it's been fun. That's fun. There's some some good ones. Celebrity one where one person says like a movie star and the other one has to say a movie star who was in a film with them. That's right, and if you can't think of one, you have to bluff and the next person connects that movie star right. So you just keep going. Or calls if they think that you're bluffing, and if they call you have to say the movie the two are in together, and that's a fun one and we've done that one with in caravans on road trips, like via text or calling people on the phone or Walky talk he's right. You'll be driving along and as a team. We're supposed to connect what the two characters are that are in play, similar to a seven? What eight? Seven degrees of Kevin? Oh, yeah, eight degrees, six tot like that. I don't remember Evin Bacon and Kevin Bacon. We found out that Chameleon's a good road trip game on the way home from that same trip, and I was a different trip, different trip to Mexico. You're driving, yeah, well, but everybody else, yeah, and even the driver could be. was kind of like on your teams, participating and I think I was playing for the driver. Yeah, you're kind of playing together. That's a little team. Yeah, that was a good one for the road trip, but one of my personal favorites is one that we're actually going to do for today's game. Oh, let's hear it. Yeah, so this is a game where you just have to come up with any trivia question. You just have to know the answer and ideally, if there's a third person there to check you sure...

...like so, then if you don't know the answer but the third person does know the answer, then I would get a point. So it has to be stuff that's common enough that everyone in the car is probably going to know right okay, but if you do know the answer, you get the point right, and so you guys go around. So so I'm trying to come up with a question that someone else would know the answer to which you went. I won't. Yeah, so I'll ask you mine first, okay, and then we'll hear yours. Right, all right, let's hear it. Okay. My question is, what is the chemical symbol for iron? For Iron, I believe iron is the good old peanut butter pb. I think that's lead. Oh No, is it really iron? Is Fe fe pole to see us? Anybody else know? I think you're right. Well, it's possible if nobody else in the car knew that I would not get a point in the car. Yes, okay, I'm going to go back to my days as a history teacher who said the famous words give me liberty or give me death. John Adams, Patrick Henry. We both got a brown so, all right, turns out we're both dumber in a bag of hammers. All right, so we're both idiots. See you next time.

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