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Accidental Parenting
Accidental Parenting

Episode 12 · 1 year ago

S01E11: Single Parenting

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Our good friend Leslie came over with her daughter to give us insight into being a single parent. She and Aubrey discover they have similar driving styles, and they check in on Col and the kids at the playground.

R- and I have just spent the last whatthirty forty five seconds and she's been observing me as I've been settingup all of the equipment for the podcast. What have you observed? Well so, firstof all, what was interesting is. It was all put away so neatly, because youwere here at the desk last and when I leave the desk, it's not put awaywheeling. I leave everything, and that was only like twenty five minutes ago.There were cords cables. All over the place. Did you notice? I've got theselittle velgro clips to tie all the cords around I've got this loopedaround the Cup holder. I've got this migrophone over here this one's putaway with everything everything in oer place. Your my water bottle. L At'sbeen sitting out on this desk for a a couple of weeks now, tuck neatly in thecorner, right where it should be. Everything has its place. True Yeah. Itlooks nothing like this when I finished recording, so as parents um I'm kind ofthe NEAT freak one, and it's not that you're, not neat you're clean, I'm justa little bit more O ced. Even well. It's interesting how, like I reallycare about things really being clean, like baseboards, clean vacuumed likeclean clean, which a pot iry hire a cleaning Servan. Now that's w like Iwant that done. You know, and I, when I had time I did all of that, but as faras a little bit of clutter does not bother me at Al letter drives me crazyand I've been doing really well. This is throwback to our previous episodedoing really well at cleaning the house after the kids have gone to bed. Idon't do it every night, but probably three nights a week. Did you notice? Idid it Li sa a ing. I also noticed that penelope had a laid over at a friend'shouse last night and you had texted at like nine o'clock. Saying Hey. Can Icome pick penelope up now and then about thirty minutes later Y I mean youwere Sleepi, Bi Tex it and I meet it e thirty minutes later, when I was donecleaning, I texted t the parens and said: Hey I'm going to come. I saw thatthis morning I was like Oo, I'm God call stayed Awakand did that 'cause. Ifelthat o reminder any time that his parents were texting, other parentsabout where kids are we or I like to try to do it as a group messagemessenges that you can see that I'm communicating with these parents too.There was one time that happened, that I sent a text to the other parents andAubry tryng to find out where our kids were, and I was like- Oh yeah. I justtext to them. Like five minutes ago, I'm like Oh, include Haw, Yo ont. Dothat I'll send like I'll just tex the mom or something like that last night Ijust textor the mom and didn't let you know I do that. Well, I was thinkingabout it. Atthe morning, though 'cause that's the thing. If it were just meand I'm needing to go pick up, panelope like if you were out o town or if Iwere a single parent like I had Ta Fallen Asleep and they would have hadto wark her home and let her in through the garage she would have gotten homewould have been okay, but like was, I was asleep. I was here. Luckily, youwere here in euro for a single parent. Some of the stuff is way trickyor right.We're actually going to talk today, we're having an interview with Um, ourgood friend Leslie, we've known her for...

...a long time, both of us and yeah we're going to ask hershsshe's been a a single parent ever since she had a child. She, you knowshe wasn't never married, she didn't get divorced and she talks about that.A little bit and yeah it's going to be GTS YEP, here's her interviewhey Leslienows goingthanks for coming in being on our pid Gasse, O Hoy for having me Ari.Yes, it's fun, it's fun to have you here. It had been too long since wehave seen each other. Our kidslike didn't recognize each other. Now theywere a little shy and had ibeen a few months. I feel like we hung out a fewmonths ago. Maybe it's been six months. T's too long. A few months in kids wereall th fther long yeah, like you, remember, eaother and they're, like nodaring at each other. No, but they wormed up quickly, yeah okgocah. She was a shy. I'm excited they're playing together,gay, okay. So we're going to ask you an awkwardly personal question: Are youready? What is something that you do as adriver that annoys other people? Well I mean I am the perfect driver, so sonothing a Har S, but I would probably say: okay, youremember living in New York City. What's like the common thing thedrivers do in in New York City, everyone hanks ray all the time. Allthe time remember they were. It was posted everywhere, like it's illegal tohunk therewas like a fine for Hung H, but people sent everyone hon, all thetimewhere, but otwest, no one honks, no one! Ever ever uses their Horn H, itactually drives me crazy. Coal will not hunk and I'll try to hunk for him. If,like the person in front, isn't going and he's like, don't touch the horn nd,I'm driving, but well I hunk I'm a honker, and I think that living here inArizona where no one else honks. I think that really bothers peoplethey're like what what's going on what what must be something really terrible,Yoron cane you're, just like just just ma a light turn go et off your phoneand start driving. We have this in common. I didn'trealize IAM a big honker, I hunk the second. If it turns, I give it like ahalf a second and if they're not going little beepy little friendly, hunk yeah,nothing rude. No, it s like a little ranny, let's get going, but then it Hasen some hongside ofaggressio for sure this summer. Somebody pulled out in front of me as Iwas driving and I gave like the loudest meanest tongue. I could 'cause. If Ihadn't breaked hard, I would have hi them and they need to know that theydid something they shouldn't have. If I don't Halk, how will they know, I'malways a little nervous that someone will pull out a gun orsomething there's always that chance, especially here in narathonl peoplelike their guns. Here I take that Ca. Yes, it's worth it so leslie here has been coal and I bothof our good friend for a long time. We met when I first moved here in Arizonato Arizona Colan. I metther about the exact same time, but then we found outthat we actually grew up in the same...

...place, an ido like the same tiny townin idaha right, but you moved there from there well, I was born in Idahoand then I grew up in rugby until I was twelve and then we moved to Arizona,but I actually knew Cole before I knew you. Oh really. I didn't know that. No,you do know this. Okay. Remind me remember: I was roommates with his O.THAT'S RIGHT! Yeah courtny and I were roommates for a while, so he was alwaysacourtney's little brother t'sfunny. Then we all connected and wewere somehow together and yeah- it's funny ecause. I often I think, ofcourtme as colds. Little sister like I now always forget that she's older thanhim 'cause she's my age and I think of Col- is older than me. Sometimes just'cause he's more mature, I don't know, maybe just 'cause my dadwas older than my mom. So sometimes I just like forget it's funny so, but Iknow I know he's younger than me Afuny funny, so we um, we know a lot abouteach other, because we've been friends for a long time. In fact, the reason wemoved to New York was because Leslie was living there. We went to visit andwe loved it were like we have to move here. We have to. We have to figure outa way to move hereigh, and so then we lived there for a whileat the s very close, we were like a block from your house where, like wehave to live right by you, it was a great. It was the perfect neighborhoodand we looked another pacte and we're like no. We have to be in the nightwhere we have to live it as a great place. It really was the best place tolive, but there are quite a few things that I don't know about you. I wasthinking through these, as I thought of this, so I'm going to introduce you bymaking some assumption things that I don't know and then just correct me ifI'm wrong and tell us the truth about you, so here's my first son. I thinkthat your first job was that crispy cream, that's very, very close. Tatmy firstjob was cinnabo. Oh my heck was so close. I theess with my phone. I had noidea and IAD made a really combines in Arizona or where were you living yeah?I know in Arizona. Okay. Is that a ahead? Mall Yeah Na that's a good jobfor a kid consider awkward, I mea nose. High School is kind of like at the mall,so all the hoschital kids are coming right and we had to wear like a uglylittle. So it was a little embarrassing, but I also gave everyone prey sinabons,so you were the popular. The girl at Cinebango get their hook up over thereor you know, be nice to her, and this she'll give you one ter yave right ofpeople, agess right. It reminds me Col or will for the longest time our fiveyear old. He would say instead O no, I think it's Pinelope ta did this.Actually, instead of saying that she had hiccups, she'd say I've got thehook. UPS She's, like I got the hook. UPS and Kenever corrected her 'cause. Iwas so cute, so you Ha Atgo. I had a Ino on okay,here's another one, your favorie vacation spot is Jamaica, O closei'venever been to Jamaica. I haven't either, but it seems like Itud, be great. You W. I don't know where my favoritevacation actually name a good vacation.

You went on Um, oh a good one. Well Ilike to travel, so I feel like any international travel. Sur has alwaysbeen like anideal vacation yeah, but I like to mix up my vacations. I don'tnecessarily going back to the same place I like to explore. So there's nofavorit vacantions pot, because you want to go somewhere new every time.God where was it? When you met Bono? That's maybe I o got to be up there.Well, I met him in New York City acton. I got so your home. We were home yeah B, but I also met himum or shook his hand at the Toronto Silm Festival. Okay, so Toronto is ther. I've always wanted to go to Toronto.That's on my list like. Why haven't I been there? Yet? I don't know at hedanything. Okay, here's one! The last movie you watched was frozen. I have never seen frozen. What really,how have you doe Mabel doesn't care. She probably watches that as ababysitters. Okay, we dor not watch it. I don't know how you got away with that.I can't do the princess you can't do princess. Maybe ill I got it no M, sothe last movie I watched, I actually watched crazy, rich Asian. Oh that's agreat movie. I liked that one. I laughed really hard yeah, I lv and herfriend out there. But yes you for sure. I don't. I can't remember the name ofthe character o anything but her the main girl's best friend I laughed sohard like everything she said was so funny. I need to watch that movie again.Okay, that's that's Goo! Oh! I HAVE ONE MORE ONE: More! Your favorite ice cream,I'm going to say is Cherry Garsia I to really do I tare see toat one,it's good yeah, but not favorite, um, probably mit chocolate, Shit, O collikes that one. I can't stand bid flavored things they all taste liketoothpaste to me. I don't understand Ay. I can see that but ie I a toothpace ofchocolate, an it I asto kind of plane and just like Vanilla as well atwasgood, especially with like Pi or you know, and dessert or like withincololute sauce on talking Y, a that sounds good yeah. All right, I feel,like we learned some interesting things about you. Thank you for sharing, I otclose, really on the crispy cream and Sinabo, and the rest of them was prettyfar off, but no, I know no, I know interesting things about you. So, let'sget into this interview right, I have so many questions for you. So in ourlast episode en e we're talking about to having two parents working full timein the home and how we figure that outright, it's been quite a bit moredifficult figuring out. You know who handles everything at home, and youknow picking up kids from school all these things that are trickier now thatwe're both working and immediately after we're like if this is this hardfor us, like think about our friends that are single parents, how muchharder has this got to be for them? So that's my first question as a singleparent. What are some of the things that are really hard to manage? Well, that's a really great question, but Ithink that Um I mean we all know like parenting ingeneral- is just hard right ye anyway, you cut it's going to be hard,but I think for me because I have...

...always been a single parent. I've neverknown anything different like this is just I got my baby. It's always beenthe two of US Um. I've never had to you know it's not like. I was in arelationship where we were you know, partnering, together and LivingTogether, raising the child and had to figure out how to Um. You know hoish and Lin or Oyeah, wherewe had to decide together how we were going to raise this child, so I'vealways and then, and then maybe going through a divorce or a loss of a spouseor partner or and then having to transition from parenting with a partner to notparenting or it's oparenting alone. You know or trying to work out, sharing the custodyof a child. Ori've never had to do that and so for me, it's just been like well,this is what it is, and so I do what I have to do. You know Gosh Yeah. Thatmakes sense. I hadn't really thought about that. There are some things thatwould be more complicated with some of those things that people have had to goto that you haven't had them experienced right Um, but I think ingeneral I would say: There's actually some someposive things about being okayes hear those, I would say, is kind of backingup a little bit to Wan. Is that earlier about like having to figure out with apartner how rone to raise a child like, I don't have to do. L that dealith twith that I have to Um. I can raise her. However, I want I candiscipline her. However whele I make all the call don't even have to run itpast anywhere else like exacty. Sometimes that's really nice eah Um, but there are definitely times where Ifeel like you know. It really would be nice to have someone that I could runthis idea by or maybe let someone else makes the Dito the decision for one sor.Let someone else be the bad person ai go. I Boll in the backcup, I'm tired ofbeing the batcop all the time, but Um. So so there is that M, but I also feellike you know, and then, and then I would say also maybe with a singleparent who is also coparenting. So maybe the child goes to Theyr, DANC Hoss on the weekends orwhatnot. You know that single parent at least has an opportunity to have somealone time or time till they go out with friends or do things on their own,and that's one thing that I don't get so Mablis with me. Twenty four, sevenaside from work, you know, and so I don't get those breakes and Um. You know. Sometimes that can bechallenging. I feel like I don't go out a lot and maybe don't take the timethat I need for myself Um. You know so so there's that aspect, butI also don't you know begrudge her for that in re,and it's just like I also like being with her and feellike, but no every parent needs that...

...kind of break that time away for sureand yeah like sometimes ith cold should be like all rigt. You got the kids I'vegot. I like you just gotta get away, and you can't do that at the drop of ahat, you'd have to arrange ust, siter figures and that's Athearky so and right it's hard to find a sitter allthe time I mean I have family around that help out a lot and but I wouldalso say just little things like. Oh, I need to run to the store. I pick up afew things. It would be nice just to leave her at home and run and do thatreally quickly on my own so having to do that- and you know, I think I I wastelling you earlier a cold earlier Um. My daughter was sick a couple of weeksago and I needed some stuff from the store, but she was throwing up so I'mlike. I can't even take her to the store with me. You know so thesituations like that where it would have been nice to have someone elsearound that could stay with her while I ran to the store run to the store forus or whatnot, but but luckily you know, my mom was thirty minutes away and Icalled her and she was able to come and how out in that area. So you know maybejust little things like that or things like wanting to exercise. You know fine timefor myself to M Jo things like that Um, I'm trying to think well. So here's noquestion that I have for you 'cause Hoan. I definitely have relied on our like neighbors, you know, and somefriends and family here, but like especially neighbors like do you havepeople who live really close, that you can ask for help or rely on. Do youfeel, like you, have that support system or kind o depends on where youlive right, right, Um, so that's tricky 'cause. I also feellike there probably are people that I couldcall and ask to do things for me or hey. Can I drop me Boff really quick butting,also don't like sceam forel you're fiercely andstubborn. That way, so I probably don't take advantage orum yeah do that, as often as I couldGotcha so pthat's a good point that a lot of it is us being willing to putourselves out there and and admit that we need help right 'cause if it wasyears before, we ever really got to know our neighbors on that level andyeah. There were a lot of times where I could have used the help. I'm like Iwill do this myself, even if it means ime whatever you know, whatevernegative circumstance there could be, and I think I also need to recognizelike I I wouldn't mind if someone called meout of the blue, a neighbor called me and said, like Hey, I really need yourhelp. Can you run to the store for me, or can you watch my kid for a minute orwhatnot like I'm happy to do that, so I don't know why. I think that theywouldn't be Inou, be happy or willing to help me out. You know that's trueand it's not like. I think you know that they would be it's a matter of youlike. If you really think about it, it's you being humble enough to admit that youwould need help of something right and you usually you can do it. It's just amatter of like okay. I'd rather call my mom, who I know H N. I know her moreaently and you and I think the other...

...thing is Um. I mean there's a unique nocent to everysingle parent um every situation is different and for me also, I only haveone child, whereas some single parents have multiple children and I think thatalso changes the dynamics greatly, and so sometimes it's just easier. You knowit's just one kid. I can load her up and go and do whatever and Um. So Ithink in that sense, maybe a my single parenting experience might be a lotdifferent and maybe easier than other people who have multiple children thanthey have to see what you're saying and do you sometimes feel like okay, Ishouldn't be asking for help because I have one child that can do this,whereas someone who had more maybe would feel like this is a lot I'mallowed to ask for help. Do you feel that sometimes sometimeokay? Well, ifyou need help, you should ask bestle call me: I wol come and help you. I also think a lot of it is out of guilt as well, because an this,probably any parent experiences this you know, Um being I work fulltime, you know I haveto take care. My my daughter, I have to provide for her M. I know your lastpodcast was about or you've doneline with two parents working right, yes M,so in a hossle where there's two parents working I'm sure both parentsfill that pole between work, yes and for shot air of children and then beinggone all day and coming home and being exhausted, but not like. I, my child needs my full attention, andso I think, because there's not another partner that can help spend that timewith her that she needs. I just feel this extra sense of like Iam away fromher so long. You know all day long, I'm away from her and she just when we aretogether or when we are home. I I just feel like I need to be with her and Itry to avoid having to to be apart from her yeah. Thatmakes sense too, like I just wantte, to make every every opportunity I can toto be the one theyre spending time with her rightwhat's right like what's itlike dating. Do you feel like howdawhat's dating with that? I don'tremember hypothetically. If we were Ai Wer date like would you would they like? Howmuch time do you think you'd give before you introduced Mabl to them? Idon't think that there's a specific time, I wouldn't say that I think itwould just depend on how the relationship is going, but ideally likeI don't want to bring a person around Um unless I know that it's serious and maybe it's goingsomewhere and that's not to say that I haven't, and I don't Nei there's situations that I wish I wouldhave done differently in terms of Um, just keeping my dating life separateand apart and not getting mable involved in in in it in anyway, Um'cause. It's not fair for her to have...

...ranon people coming around multiple TI.You know and then t goi it not apens 'cause. I don't really date alot, youknow but like. If that were the case, I just I don't. I don't want her to gothrough that experience of having people coming in and out of her lifeand getting attached to them right and then yeah exactly slicking around rightyeah. I get that so it sort of depends on the person on the relationship,Forye, Surey, so Gotcha. Well, I'm going no have to think of Ho. I cansent you up, I'm sure, that's what you want. So I know you mentioned that your momcame and hope that once bat aside from that, like what about your family, havethey been able to be a big support? Yeah, my family's been reallysupportative Um, I mean in fact I moved back to Arizona from New York during mypregnancy so that I could be closer to families so that I could havetheirtheir help. You know, and also just so my daughter could grow uparound family and have that experience but um my family has been really goodjust in terms of especially working full time, and sometimes I I travel forwork. Often it's just like day trips, where I'm leaving really early in themorning or it might be an overnight trip occasionally and my familyis ableto help out with that and and it's especially a little more difficult nowthat she's in school meeting someone to make sure she gets to school and stuffand so Um. You know having my mom and two sistersthat are both thirty minutes away. They've been really good about steppingin, and you know if there are those occasional moments where, like I justseen to go, see a movie, doere Agan Away have a date an maybe I then my family will step in, but um they yeah they've been a huge supporterand Akn. I always idealy. I would love to move out to NewYork and raise her in New York, but I feel like having the family support here is, isreally important right now and so we're probably in a good place, yeah nowthersColani, because he was working from home. We could have moved anywhere. Hedidn't have to be here, and so we looked at all these other cities outeast and we were looking at moving and it kind of came down to that way likewe wanted them to be able to know their grandparents. We want them to knowtheir cousins. We want to be closer where we're close enough to visit themand see them on holidays and as much as there are some places especialotiswhere I would rather live honestly, it's just so far you just oh you justhardly ave her sel family and there's such value to that for the support, andalso so that they know them right. So they have those relationships with them.forawith Mabel's, race, being different from yours, like you know, have therebeen any experiences or you how how's that been like in general, yeah, so Um,that's a God, question too. So right, I'm Caucasian and Mabel is black Umshe's very much aware of I you know like from a very young age. We hadconversations about her race, and so she knows that she's Biracial. Sheknows her. Dad Is Black Um...

Buti. I also feel like Um this big responsibility, I'm veryconscious of I'm raising a BI racial child and it's really my responsibilityto to make sure that she's aware of that and that she has um connections toboth sides of of who she is. You know it's hard because with me and my family, obviously likewe're white, so she's always around like the the white aspect of her family,you know Um, and so I feel like. I really have to make a consciouseffort to do things Tomak to Um. Just make her aware of this other aspect of who she is. Youknow and that's hard, because I I can't do that. I I can't I don't know whatbarriers she's going to come across or what what her life is going to be like.I feel like right now. It's it's not necessarily difficult right now,because you know she's. Only five I feel, like kids are very young and umor just innocent t this Ne. You know they don't really look how raised TAT's.Not It's not really an issue, but I don't know what things are going to be down. Theroad for her well obstacle she's, going to encounter she's going to feel tornbetween Um between that, like am I going to haveto decide. Am I goin T identifis by racial? Am Igoing t Identifi is why am IG to identify is black? I want that to be adecision that she makes but um in the meantime. I just feel this sense ofresponsibility of of helping her understand what it means. What are something youhave done to help her understand like to be familiar with her heritage, O herrace like to to understand. So you know again it it's hard because herdad really isning the picture, and she doesn't see that aspect from from himand so um I trid to well for one thing: We livedowntown Phoenix and I feel like that's a more diverse area, more so thanGilbert for share, and I mean even downtown Phoenix isbeing gentrified. Unfortunately- and I guess I'm a part of that- you know butum, but the school that she goes to ispretty diverse, and so that's great for her to go there and see cause of allethnicities Um and then also we read a lot of books. I try to introduce her toa wide variety of books and not just books. wher, there's characters inthere that look like her, but haracters of different races, t ns,ethnicities and cultures and Um. You know, abilities and whatnot. So Ithink that's important as well. I follow a couple instrogram people answer, Grammars, whatever youcall him...

Um who who focus on books, and so theyalways have great books, great subgestions, about Um books for fordiversity and whatnot and then m. another thing I do because we live downtown, pretty closeto like South Phoenix, where South Phoenix is more diverse in terms of Umthere's, a a Greater Hispanic population, ind, a greater b AfricanAmerican population when I enroll her in sports or dance classes or soccer orbasketball, um ierroll her in that area, as Sooga she's participating in thosecasses with people with other kids. That um look like her and a have some worm identities. I Wa O.Okay. I have another question. I know you've taken her to severaldemonstrations for causes that you support, and you know what has thatalways been a pusitive experience like? is she happy to go or she kindo like aI'm curious? Well, we haven't done one for a while, and I know the first viewthat we went to. She was fairly young like two three, and so she didn'treally understand what was going on and what that meant Um an so it was morejust like. Oh, this crowd of m were uns marching along with him yeah Gotcha,but I think I think it's important to be civicallyminded and Aftiv, our community and whatnot, and- and I I'm definitely notas involved as I would like to be. I always tell myself I'm going to do morething. You know but doesn't always happen, and so I think that Um, juststarting f from a young age, um or or involving her at a young age,just hoping to make that, like a routine part of her life and anddattle, youknow, as she gets older she'll, have a better understanding of what that means,and then the conversations that I have with her are going to involve based offof how she grows an WT, Um, she's, pitont about sure. Exactly butum I mean so far. They've been great experiences and every time I go and Ibring her I get really I get coments from others about you know. That's sogreat. You brought your daughter along and good for you and you know she'sSheall so likes to go round the House seening Beyonsas, who run the world.You know s a D, I'm like okay, we're rng something igh her Oknow, what's going on ferzure yeah,but I do ILO have to say like just in terms of her her being by racial. I Don' You know you ask about differentexperiences of yeah. It's interesting cause I think living where we live andagain like trying to live, trying to make a conscious effort to live in acommunity. That's more diverse! I don't really get comments or I haven't hadany issues whatever, but ihave been...

...indifferent different states. I don'tknow if I should call out this day or notwhere once I was visiting and likethereere like three or four times in that particular visit, where I hadsomeone calm out on her race and it's Idaho, isn't it USA? Okay, like Oh, is she ors? Is She adopted, orthere was a little girl in the playground, this little red, heded,preckled girllake? She doesn't look like you. Is She our kid Um and thenanyway, there was some other gosation and they weren't necessarily negative.Just people making comments which to me was another Um indicator of why I feel like theimportant's importance of making sure that she's raised in an area wherethere I diversity for sure 'cause the ing these kids maybe have never likeit's brand new for them mm yeah and so that iy're going to comment about it,especially if the parents never had a conversation with them. H O know aboutthat at all or if they're, not reading books, where they're seeing diversityyeahfor sure azing. Well. Thank you. For being so, you know cand and willingto talk. I was like as anything off the table you're like no bi'll talk aboutanything. Okay, we're going to play a game, yourOade, your phone, so open up your phone. That is what we're going to do, we'reboth going to call coal at the same time, D, we're GOETG to see which callgoes through so put on speaker, we'll see. Tell me when you're ready, KAYSEE IA on my Resoi'm waiting I'Mwaiwell hit his name at the same ye cas its prob me mostly that you've calledhe yeh R Idy cuck up 'cause. You had to two battons ananyhing to I, it looks like your voicemallbox has notbeen set up. lustly got your voice now ye Ariyep, it said, I'm sorry the personwho reachd has a voicemollbox that as not been set up, I don't know t ntfuny I'll, Tal Hong again, listen to Yo, oh, maybe it's his old number. You havecolls old number. I don't know it's your old number. He has a new number,his one of his previous jobs like kept that number and he had the switchnumbers. Aw Be Wino, gaill Tra. I last that came let's record me. She might be at Churchthat'll be funny she's going to get a call from both of us at the same timeat Church okayokay, this one's harder...

...for me to find. I don't have her in May.recents. You've got her more ready, 'cause! You Ro right. U There by Col,hang on hang on okay ready here, you go same time. Go. I acorting leave me a method, there's what straight OO, mays Meinancirr wo still ringing streght to voicemail. I guess this cause Mane got through N.I got through firs, somehow VOIC ML, a reall insured on Tis II. Think I won, though cause mine wentthrough. Yours went straight to voicemouse, I feel like I won. I don'tknow okay here, I'm going to put coals inyour phone now we're ready. Okay, say when go MI, Argan 'cause Youe Havin, to pushlike four numbers. Here we go now it's a real race iokay. I think I won Leslie One phonenumber 'c that we pushed at the exact sametime that time and Leslie's went through first. I don't know why she'sgot to besome kind of Algarotthem, but I won with Courtney. Seei said funny: Well, things warecoming today, last night'vebeen really bun chatting with you yeah talk to yousoon. Okay, Miwell done on the interview. OBBR youl always do afantastic job. No thank you. It's funny. I tried to get cold to do the interviewthis time, I'm like Os Youre Terr, I'm a little nervous. It's just been me, but you know Y. U,and I both know Leslie this equally well, so I gave you the option toeither like hang out with all of our kids or do the interview and at firstyou're, like okay I'll, do the interview 'cause. I didn't want to haveto hang out ubout the kids, but then you didn't really have time tolike kind of read over the questions and suffer much. I think great, soyou're, like okay I'll watch the KI. I do think it's funny that you forgetthat I've known lesslie longer I've known you and I was like. Why is I it's becauseOh ith, I thought Youre say t age thng? Yes, really. You think that you think that Iolder than I think if he is older than me, I think just because of all theface wrinkles that I have yes, that's it a thought we have for today thanks se.Next Time.

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